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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 27270@debbugs.gnu.org, v.schneidermann@gmail.com,
	npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: bug#27270: display-raw-bytes-as-hex generates ambiguous output for Emacs strings
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 09:00:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r2yt7lad.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d63382b1-2363-d62d-ce41-646acafda3d5@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 8 Jun 2017 13:35:45 -0700)

> Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 27270@debbugs.gnu.org,
>  v.schneidermann@gmail.com
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 13:35:45 -0700
> 
> On 06/08/2017 12:56 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > How do you know "\2205" is a two character string
> 
> Because I use Emacs out of the box, with the default printable-chars.

That's just sheer luck, then, not a general solution that works for
everybody.  And it's not unimaginable that we will mark more
codepoints printable at some point, given some development in the
Unicode standard or in Emacs.

> >> The difference is that I don't use display tables and don't want to use
> >> them. In contrast, I would like to use hexadecimal display, if it worked
> >> as well as octal does (which it does not).
> > Then we need to code a separate feature in the Lisp reader, I think.
> 
> What do you think of using capital X for hexadecimal escapes with at 
> most two digits? That way, "\X905" would be a two-character string, 
> which is what is wanted here. Or we could use small h for hexadecimal, 
> and "\h905".

I'm okay, but I'm not sure I understand how does this fix your
problem.  Can you explain?

> If we were feeling ambitous and concise, we could use no character at 
> all and upper-case hex digits for bytes in the range 0x80 through 0xFF; 
> this would be unambiguous in strings (the example would be "\905"). This 
> may be a bridge too far, though.

Too far, I agree.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-09  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-07  3:57 bug#27270: display-raw-bytes-as-hex generates ambiguous output for Emacs strings Paul Eggert
2017-06-07  5:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08  0:49   ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08  1:07     ` npostavs
2017-06-08 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08 15:56       ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 16:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08 16:24           ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 18:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08 19:43               ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 19:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08 20:35                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-09  6:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-06-09 23:44                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-10  7:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-11  0:04                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-11 14:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-11 17:26                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-02 13:25                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-23 14:00                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-24  7:10                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-24  9:56                             ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2022-04-24 10:26                               ` Andreas Schwab
2022-04-24 10:51                                 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2022-04-24 11:01                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2022-04-24 11:29                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-24 22:46                               ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-24 11:24                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-24 22:35                               ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-25  7:40                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-25 16:49                                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-26 10:06                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-26 16:48                                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-27 12:13                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-27 17:21                                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-27 17:22                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 17:58                                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-10 22:52         ` npostavs
2017-06-11  0:10           ` Paul Eggert

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