From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 19:51:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83r2omr1f4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fu53xxzc.fsf@gmail.com> <87y3ivwg0h.fsf@gmail.com> <838tauskpk.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1521049847 26618 195.159.176.226 (14 Mar 2018 17:50:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 30815@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com To: Aaron Jensen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 14 18:50:42 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAXv-0006mP-MG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 18:50:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47626 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAZy-0007SE-RN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:52:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40178) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAZJ-00070U-K2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:52:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAZG-0007pb-I3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAZG-0007pP-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAZG-00084Z-45 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed notabug Original-Received: via spool by 30815-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30815.152104988630981 (code B ref 30815); Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2018 17:51:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33575 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAYg-00083d-0U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:51:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAYe-00083P-E6 for 30815@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:51:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAYW-0007In-3f for 30815@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:51:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAYW-0007IZ-0Z; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:51:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1741 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ewAYV-00010N-BP; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:51:15 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Aaron Jensen on Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:43:08 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:144272 Archived-At: > From: Aaron Jensen > Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:43:08 -0700 > Cc: Noam Postavsky , 30815@debbugs.gnu.org > > I wanted to change it because I started to use typo-mode: > https://github.com/jorgenschaefer/typoel which automatically turned > apostrophes I typed into right quotes in my org-mode files (which is > where I had it enabled). I was ok with this, but I wanted them to > behave like apostrophes did (not being word boundaries and all) so I > went down this path. > > I have since unbound ' in that mode, so it just inserts a normal > apostrophe. I'm aware of the "controversy" surrounding the different > characters and, to be honest, I can't be bothered. Filing this bug was > a light weight attempt to see if I was missing something and/or if > this was unexpected. > > For right quote in particular, it's probably even more nuanced. One > could use right quotes to close a single quoted piece of text. In > which case, that right quote probably shouldn't be a "word" in the > syntax table. > > Because of all of that, I'm totally happy just using ' like a normal > person. I'm not an author writing manuscripts. > > > The next question is what other characters need this special handling, > > and how many of them are there? > > I do not know. None others that I know of, but that doesn't mean much. Well, if this is just about ’ , then we could simply change its script to be 'latin'. But, as you say, that would get in the way with quoted text. > I'm happy to consider this issue resolved (I know it's closed and was > merged into 10494) if everyone else is after the doc changes have been > merged in. OK, let's wait for other comments, and consider this resolved if none come up. Thanks.