From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Bill Wohler <wohler@newt.com>
Cc: bzg@altern.org, stefan@marxist.se, 13824@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13824: 24.3.50; :package-version not taking priority over :version
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 17:01:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r25ru7fs.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <116969.1565475013@olgas.newt.com> (message from Bill Wohler on Sat, 10 Aug 2019 15:10:13 -0700)
> cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, bzg@altern.org,
> 13824@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Bill Wohler <wohler@newt.com>
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 15:10:13 -0700
>
> > Bill, what is your take on this? Your change, which introduced this
> > attribute, only modified customize-changed-options. Was that on
> > purpose?
>
> Thanks for asking. The original intent of package-version was to provide
> more accurate version information in packages that were updated more
> often than Emacs, regardless of whether they were packaged in Emacs
> (like MH-E and Gnus) or not. I think that should apply to any function
> that displays version information for an option. That is, any function
> that looks for :version should also look for :package-version.
Thanks.
Upon taking a better look, I conclude that there's more here than
originally met the eye.
First, the doc string of defcustom says:
:package-version
VALUE should be a list with the form (PACKAGE . VERSION)
specifying that the variable was first introduced, or its
default value was changed, in PACKAGE version VERSION. This
keyword takes priority over :version. For packages which
are bundled with Emacs releases, the PACKAGE and VERSION
must appear in the alist `customize-package-emacs-version-alist'.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So Stefan's reproducer, viz.:
(progn
(defcustom foobar nil
"foo"
:version "27.1"
:package-version '(foo . "1"))
(describe-variable-custom-version-info 'foobar))
wasn't supposed to work, since it doesn't play by the rules.
Next, MH-E uses :package-version, but doesn't use :version. So, for
example, "C-h v mh-whitelist-preserves-sequences-flag RET" produces
the expected
This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
version 8.4 of the MH-E package that is part of Emacs 24.4.
By contrast, Org mode files use both :package-version and :version,
which I guess was the reason why Bastien filed this bug report in the
first place.
Now, since we _require_ the package versions to appear in
customize-package-emacs-version-alist, specifying :package-version
alone provides all the info we need about both the package version and
the corresponding Emacs version. Therefore, specifying :version as
well is simply redundant when :package-version is given, and Org
shouldn't use :version (btw, Org is the only bundled package which
uses both these attributes). IOW, if a package uses both attributes,
it's a mistake, we should document that to be a mistake (i.e. not just
say :package-version "overrides"), and it should probably be flagged
as a mistake by checkdoc. And yes, functions that need the version
information should ignore :version if :package-version is available.
Which means describe-variable-custom-version-info should indeed be
fixed.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-11 14:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-26 17:28 bug#13824: 24.3.50; :package-version not taking priority over :version Bastien Guerry
2019-08-08 3:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-10 9:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-10 14:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-10 22:10 ` Bill Wohler
2019-08-10 22:40 ` Bill Wohler
2019-08-11 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-08-11 18:06 ` Bill Wohler
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