From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41821: 28.0.50; read-directory-name in vc commands should provide defaults from projects Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 20:41:57 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1ttx196.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r1ulxk48.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2oh8fdv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87366ohw5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878sge7jls.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <7e136435-7123-fa42-e4a8-66b82e6595da@yandex.ru> <87pn9pxris.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83d05ottnw.fsf@gnu.org> <0b42f540-f779-446b-4411-8dae3a50d09d@yandex.ru> <837dvwtrv1.fsf@gnu.org> <835zbgtqps.fsf@gnu.org> <625de669-0715-1467-0bd1-84328b4bee5f@yandex.ru> <83wo3ws4g8.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuyzs2np.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7uuj1v3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7utjx75.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <3f9e85ba-66a9-abd0-61bf-800ea8bb4ee3@yandex.ru> <87eepw5nlt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83v9j7xpoj.fsf@gnu.org> <990a9046-c4e6-efb2-01dd-60198994127b@yandex.ru> <831rluxcll.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5195"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 41821@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 02 19:52:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3No-0001FR-9P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 19:52:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36032 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Nn-000425-7v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:52:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Ek-0002jS-62 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44046) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Ej-0000M3-RR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Ej-0005AG-PW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:43:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 17:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41821 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 41821-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41821.159371173019793 (code B ref 41821); Thu, 02 Jul 2020 17:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41821) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2020 17:42:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55592 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Dt-00059B-PR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Dq-00058j-BM for 41821@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:42:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37394) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Dk-0000HM-3V; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:42:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4181 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jr3Dj-0007Hb-G5; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:41:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:43:29 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:182640 Archived-At: > Cc: 41821@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:43:29 +0300 > > > I just fear that this is a slippery slope: we will eventually need to > > inject this into many GP commands, "for consistency". > > The notion of current project is very common in most editors But Emacs is more than just an IDE, it can be and is used for many other jobs. For example, I customary take a break from my development work to read email, and when doing so I might issue some Grep command that I need for some email message I'm writing. I don't think it's right for Emacs to assume that every Grep I do is necessarily related to the last project I was working on (which could be days in the past, btw). This way, we would need a command to "get out of" (or "close") the project, which I think would be both a nuisance and absurd. > >> Another long-term violation of your idea is the default definition of > >> xref-backend-references. It uses the current project. You could say that > >> mixes up abstractions as well, but it's just too handy to implement this > >> way. > > > > I don't think I understand the issue and the use case, sorry. > > The use case is 'M-x xref-find-refereces' and xref backends which don't > override xref-backend-references. In which case this command searches > the current project using general purpose tools (one of semantic symref > tools, or Grep). > > But xref backend != current project. They're technically and > theoretically independent. So you are saying that it might bring me the wrong references once in a while? That's not good, is it?