From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44316: 26.3; Faces `fixed-pitch' and `fixed-pitch-serif' are opposite what they should be Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 10:51:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83r1pehj7l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56375b2e-74c4-4218-a344-500d31dd3c75@default> <87d00zj2jm.fsf@gnus.org> <877dr7hlkf.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38256"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 44316@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 31 09:52:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmcP-0009qt-SU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 09:52:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40566 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmcO-0008Ry-Ao for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmcE-0008Ra-0s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmcD-0005b9-O7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmcD-0004MW-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:52:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44316 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44316-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44316.160413429416732 (code B ref 44316); Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44316) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2020 08:51:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60519 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmbm-0004Lm-EU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:51:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmbk-0004LV-Um for 44316@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:51:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35643) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmbf-0005Se-IP; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3437 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kYmbe-0000KR-UY; Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:51:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877dr7hlkf.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:48:00 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192255 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:48:00 +0100 > Cc: 44316@debbugs.gnu.org > > Stefan Kangas writes: > > > I'm also on Debian bullseye. I wonder what causes the different things > > we are seeing. Sounds likely that we have different font related > > packages installed, right? > > Yup. This is with "emacs -Q", by the way, which I failed to mention > the last time, but it seems like I'm getting the same in my normal Emacs. I think one part of the problem here is that "Mono" family (which is what fixed-pitch uses) doesn't say whether the result will be with or without serifs. So you can get a font either with or without the serifs, depending on what fonts are installed and perhaps also on some local configuration. The other part of the problem, which could be Windows-specific, is that the MS-Windows font back-ends don't know about "Mono Serif" family. Do you always get a font with serifs when the family is "Mono Serif"? If so, we could perhaps teach MS-Windows do the same. But the result might be that both faces get the same font -- are we okay with that? One place where that could matter is in Info.