From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53885: 28.0.51 [PATCH] Autoload package-installed-p Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:04:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83r18bszb6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y22kupn7.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8xng5ig.fsf@gnus.org> <83bkzfuu8o.fsf@gnu.org> <871r0bfcdy.fsf@gnus.org> <877da39kqj.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: corwin@bru.st, 53885@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 10 13:13:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8Jw-0007al-21 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 13:13:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58044 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8Ju-0002fz-Vy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:13:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50318) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8C8-0004nE-Kg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:05:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8C6-0003pp-5e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:05:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8C5-0003LY-L1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:05:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 12:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53885 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53885-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53885.164449468212826 (code B ref 53885); Thu, 10 Feb 2022 12:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53885) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2022 12:04:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54202 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8Bm-0003Ko-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:04:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43532) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8Bj-0003KU-O4 for 53885@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:04:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=54458 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8BZ-0003jx-0X; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:04:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Jbx0VK7pPC1Qr18MymR+0uhF9aemnUqTuS7yIT3wUnA=; b=S0JBWAhFQ3pj 917T2Z70xEiq33zAcEbjBtUO/W4qXv1eQVf2V3wvzou8l3ZKzWZ5/6V3Sq2EzjAB1q7dikEAzDy4r RBuFigLd4Fq2R/YJL5pnBV0gR0HiJcwVKmB4nRwqHH16WefMDXPQcJd1i2Q0W+t+w0mHC6Oyf4iMx NwJH1xbRRI5Lr1JWr+MCtRr5jfkdxcl3stDqr/C0gMi+sfybl3T5tOyiCWWJmGHopKqSn685IsHie w9NU6rVlfLNok3McW6ShYk1zVPKMvvW3kXJmeAa2Mr8880uTja7F9cX/8vcFFljZPmXNXPlN37S3E 1182ADgRjH8CfSY3XwE2RQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4308 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nI8BN-0007kd-Qz; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 07:04:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877da39kqj.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:41:40 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:226594 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 53885@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:41:40 +0100 > > Oh, I see -- this has nothing to do with use-package, and you could have > used some other package manager. You just want to be able to check > whether a package is installed in .emacs (without saying `require > 'package') which seems reasonable to me. > > However, this comes firmly under "new functionality" and not "bug fix", > so I'm not sure we should put it in emacs-28 at this point, no matter > how innocuous it looks like. But if Eli thinks otherwise, I won't > object. Those were my thoughts as well, so we agree here.