From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: 32921@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, jimis@gmx.net
Subject: bug#32921: emacsclient obeys Xresources even when launched with -nw
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 16:23:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r14pd5b6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h75l1xeo.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Thu, 19 May 2022 21:09:51 +0800)
> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 32921@debbugs.gnu.org, jimis@gmx.net
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 21:09:51 +0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > We already do that, see the information and the backtrace posted by
> > Lars a while ago.
>
> Hmm... then why does this code still exist at all?
That's what we are trying to understand, among other things. I posted
one possible explanation.
> x-create-frame-with-faces should take care of setting the `reverse'
> parameter entirely.
I'm not sure this is 100% true.
> Could you please explain what you meant by "startup timer" here?
>
> > So the difference is between (a) taking notice of the reverseVideo
> > resource at startup timer as opposed to (b) at frame creation time, is
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > that right? If so, I think this might affect the use case whereby
> > someone changes the X resources after Emacs has already started, or
> > something?
It's a typo: I meant "at startup time".
> > The code in x-win.el does something beyond that: it caters for people
> > who have X resources specified on their user-private files, and want
> > those settings to be in effect on all displays.
>
> But then why only a single resource, and not all of them? Especially
> an obscure one like reverseVideo?
I don't know. I guess for some kind of backward compatibility. This
is very old code.
> > People who want Emacs to behave like you describe can simply remove
> > this setting from their ~/.Xdefaults.
>
> That wouldn't be useful, since Emacs doesn't even load ~/.Xdefaults if
> the X server it connected to already has some resources loaded.
You assume that those hypothetical people didn't take care of that.
> > Not necessarily, because frame-parameters applied by
> > gui_default_parameter could override those we took from ~/.Xdefaults.
>
> I meant the parameters applied by gui_default_parameter when the
> parameter is not present in `default-frame-alist' or the ALIST argument.
Then I don't understand your objection at all: when Emacs starts up,
there's only one X server that can be relevant: the one where Emacs
shows its first frame.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-19 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-03 17:49 bug#32921: emacsclient obeys Xresources even when launched with -nw Dimitrios Apostolou
2022-05-18 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-18 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-18 13:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-18 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-18 13:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-18 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 22:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-19 1:37 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 7:47 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 8:59 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 10:19 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 13:09 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-05-19 13:40 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20 1:04 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-20 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20 8:15 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-19 23:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-20 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20 8:19 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-20 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20 8:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-20 11:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-20 11:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-19 13:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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