From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:28:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83r0q21nij.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37240"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 64185@debbugs.gnu.org, me@eshelyaron.com, zkanfer@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 23 12:29:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe2l-0009TT-K4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:29:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe2T-0001eR-WF; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:29:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe2J-0001UG-1z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe2I-0001bQ-Pi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe2I-0007hK-5I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64185 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64185-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64185.168751608229519 (code B ref 64185); Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2023 10:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37720 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe1K-0007g1-6l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe1H-0007fX-Q5 for 64185@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe1B-0001Dg-By; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:27:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=n+In3eiRF1enB6FqcpPekaoVeXchrgCMTq1D2ZNxDp0=; b=jM9JNot4pSgp2B7/MpY+ KhENVanHUiQdPFixvjMynuVH6gfPpyfFFrDqLRqmYBfAHHPMHIjsnuiSGAvJp6VOLDzXmBcoowHT+ o44AABlPC8o1AiBYsnX3P4iIBIwFs7YYAtRlzC6DM7M8cMBOYcHYSFOR5p7XqgG1tlU3eyFU58fTk vkaoL0sdGYByj4FtZ8sOJPHX4IQdkefNwf+ODdXnvmfqJaM9hRUW7HhyK3fAYku2oS3Itp8GAbwcx y6HzbgboKSPtrn9ylJZtNXOBDnnAnSXC9lPUMNIdFO2ox12aK2rxTu0/u129Jk0B/ELzsNU1fqRUS FfHlBOiGvAx87g==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qCe1A-0003n2-Dt; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:27:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@gmail.com> (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:07:58 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:263942 Archived-At: > From: Mattias Engdegård > Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:07:58 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , > 64185@debbugs.gnu.org, > me@eshelyaron.com, > zkanfer@gmail.com > > Finally, it's a bit surprising that this is even discussed for inclusion in Emacs 29 at this stage, given the raw state of the design. What about we do a proper job on master instead, instead of rushing a half-baked new feature into a branch that is already deep into pre-release? This is a new feature in Emacs 29, so adding customization opportunities to it that allow fine control of its behavior is fine at this stage. Of course, if the proposal is controversial, we shouldn't rush. My impression till now was that it wasn't controversial. If the only issue is better documentation and/or whether the value should be a number or a symbol, then I see no problem with installing this on the release branch.