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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, 65451@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#65451: 30.0.50; `after-change-functions' are not triggered in the same order the changes are made
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:08:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r0nsprrk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qfsel8q.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:24:37 +0000)

> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: casouri@gmail.com, 65451@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:24:37 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Exposing buffer text changes to Lisp is inherently dangerous, because
> > Lisp code can do anything and everything in these hooks, and many
> > packages already do.  The fact that we allow this via those two hooks
> > is unfortunate as it is, but adding more opportunities for Lisp to do
> > potentially dangerous stuff, and doing that on a lower level, where
> > the buffer object is sometimes in a state that is not 100% consistent,
> > is unwise, to say the least.  It will make Emacs much less stable.
> > No, thanks.
> 
> I can see the danger running lisp code while buffer state is transient.
> 
> Would it be acceptable to accumulate treesit_record_change transactions
> into a queue, combine them later, and run the Elisp hook only when it is
> safe (around the same place `after-change-functions' is called, but only
> when actual edit is made to the buffer text)?
> 
> That way, we can have a hook that will run strictly less frequently
> compared to `after-change-functions'.

When exactly do you need this to run?  At the same time as
after-change-functions doesn't sound like a good idea to me, but I
think you don't need to run it there.  What about running just before
redisplay kicks in?

Or how about explaining how is the (updated) AST used, i.e. who are
the clients of the AST updates, and what do they do when the AST
changes?





  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-24 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-22  9:30 bug#65451: 30.0.50; `after-change-functions' are not triggered in the same order the changes are made Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-22 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-22 12:42   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-22 12:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-22 13:41       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-22 16:02         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23  8:52           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 17:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-24  7:46               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24  8:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-24 11:24                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 12:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-08-24 13:27                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 14:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-25  6:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-25  9:09                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26  7:10                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-27  8:13                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-27  8:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-29  7:39                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25  8:09                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25 10:25                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-25 10:49                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30 13:51   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 14:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 15:38       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 16:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-31  3:04           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-31  3:02     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-31  6:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-31 13:57         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-07 18:19       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-08 19:10         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-07 18:19       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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