From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:39:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83ppvai7au.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837ghjjqvj.fsf@gnu.org> <831u7rjoyl.fsf@gnu.org> <83y59zi84y.fsf@gnu.org> <871u7rxns8.fsf@yandex.ru> <83vc53i7cv.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372171219 3107 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2013 14:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lunaryorn@gmail.com, lekktu@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, 14704@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 25 16:40:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUPl-00058y-Vb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:40:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUPl-0000fo-Ku for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40827) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUPh-0000dZ-1V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUPc-00038E-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUPc-000370-3D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUPb-0004zE-2O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:40:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14704 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14704-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14704.137217116619118 (code B ref 14704); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2013 14:39:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40529 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUOz-0004yI-P8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:39:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUOw-0004xr-Ia for 14704@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:39:24 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MOY00I00E144X00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 14704@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:39:14 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MOY00HXME1ED2F0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:39:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75562 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , lunaryorn@gmail.com, lekktu@gmail.com, 14704@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:35:25 -0400 > > > We lack a lot of infrastructure for that, like access from Lisp to > > data structures manipulated by the display engine. > > For the tty case at least we could image just use the sequence of bytes > sent to the tty. True, but even TTY output is to some extent dependent on the terminal capabilities, so parsing such byte streams is not entirely trivial.