From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3447: suggest minibuffer M-< go to start of text Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:28:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83pnjgabv3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <873aajttak.fsf@blah.blah> <87d0fidwfl.fsf@gnus.org> <83muemcgh7.fsf@gnu.org> <877e5oad9d.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="39945"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 3447@debbugs.gnu.org, user42@zip.com.au To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 14:29:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHHD-000AIT-Oj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:29:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41370 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHHC-0002FM-Ir for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:29:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHH5-0002Dh-5u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHH4-0000pm-8r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52181) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHH4-0000pW-3y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHH3-0003uz-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 3447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3447.156993292815030 (code B ref 3447); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 12:28:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60999 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHGq-0003uL-9y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:28:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34755) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHGo-0003u8-MF for 3447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:28:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHGh-0000M0-RE; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3825 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iFHGa-00043W-FD; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:28:35 -0400 In-reply-to: <877e5oad9d.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:58:22 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167981 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: user42@zip.com.au, 3447@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:58:22 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > As an opt-in behavior, please. We can make it the default later, if > > there's enough demand. > > I can do that, but after using this for a bit, it just seems like very > natural behaviour, which makes me wonder whether anybody really enjoys > the previous behaviour. I mean, there's very little of use you can do > before the end of the minibuffer prompt. The only use case I can see is > if you want to copy the entire buffer contents to the kill ring... > but... how often is that done? I understand that this is your impression, but that's just a single person's impression. The change in behavior is not insignificant. > Perhaps we could just do the change below (calling it out in NEWS) and > see whether anybody complains? And if they do, we'll introduce the > variable. The problem with the complaints is that they usually come only after Emacs is released, and by that time it is too late. So let's have the defcustom, please.