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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, 40725@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#40725: 27.0.91; Tutorial reports false positive key rebindings
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:32:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83pnbx9fgv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <654FEBD4-BA27-4060-9CFD-0CF67F6000BB@acm.org> (message from Mattias Engdegård on Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:47:44 +0200)

> From: Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org>
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:47:44 +0200
> Cc: juri@linkov.net, contovob@tcd.ie, 40725@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> 24 apr. 2020 kl. 14.13 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
> 
> > I didn't say "a good reason", I said "if we can solve the issue in
> > some other way".
> 
> Why does renaming files, a quite uncomplicated operation, have to be the last resort?

I thought I explained why.

> > What problems are those?  You mentioned grepping the files, which can
> > be easily handled by excluding the tutorials directory from the
> > search.  Are there any other problems we should consider?
> 
> I didn't mention grepping (scanning files can be done in multiple ways), but why would I or anyone else need to perform such contortions every time to compensate for a problem that is so easily solved once and for all by simply giving the files better names?

Because renaming comes with a price I'd rather not pay.

> > "Gracefully" is in the eyes of the beholder.  It's true the support
> > for renames improved in the recent years, but there are still commands
> > that either fails or need special invocation methods to work across
> > renames.  So it's still a source of inconvenience and occasional
> > failure or mistaken conclusions, and I'd like to avoid that if
> > possible.
> 
> You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

It isn't a molehill for me.  I need to search VCS history quite a lot.

> It's not going to be a problem; this is not CVS. Let's not invent difficulties.

I'm not inventing anything, the problems are real.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-19 23:31 bug#40725: 27.0.91; Tutorial reports false positive key rebindings Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-04-20 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 22:19   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-04-21 13:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 22:26       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-04-23 14:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 21:52         ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-24  6:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  3:31           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25  8:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25 20:42             ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-18 13:54         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-18 18:52           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-08-19 10:20             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-12  8:28               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-14 23:24                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-11-15  5:53                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-24  8:46 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-04-24 10:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 10:41     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-04-24 11:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 11:35         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-04-24 12:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 12:47             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-04-24 13:32               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-04-24 16:01                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-04-25  3:33                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25  6:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-27  2:18                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-27  2:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-27  6:11                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-28  2:49                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-28  7:02                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-29  3:25                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29  7:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30  2:32                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-24 19:48             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-24 19:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 15:38           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-24 15:51             ` Eli Zaretskii

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