From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45536: [PATCH] Pretty-print keys without <> around modifiers Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2021 14:54:46 +0200 Message-ID: <83pn2og6ll.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83sg7oidp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg7oosmx.fsf@gnus.org> <97ADE294-0674-4CAC-96B1-DAD947BA3A32@acm.org> <87im8ioan4.fsf@gnus.org> <9029B6ED-5201-417A-AE37-44A564561BBA@acm.org> <87h7o1c4uv.fsf@gnus.org> <83zh1sg947.fsf@gnu.org> <020D0443-20C2-4F8B-81FE-F1040469E919@acm.org> <83tus0g7tr.fsf@gnu.org> <50C39303-B054-4E6E-9F6E-273794587B8E@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7579"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 45536@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 01 13:56:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJyT-0001sR-2m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 13:56:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33462 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJyS-0002nM-5m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:56:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJyM-0002n0-KR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJyM-0003Po-Ct for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJyM-00057s-As for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:56:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2021 12:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45536 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 45536-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45536.160950571619646 (code B ref 45536); Fri, 01 Jan 2021 12:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2021 12:55:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJxZ-00056l-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:55:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJxU-00056R-Nd for 45536@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:55:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJxP-0002yD-DB; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1743 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJxO-0006DS-A2; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:55:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <50C39303-B054-4E6E-9F6E-273794587B8E@acm.org> (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Fri, 1 Jan 2021 13:43:17 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:197132 Archived-At: > From: Mattias Engdegård > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 13:43:17 +0100 > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 45536@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Besides, your suggested changes don't produce results that are 100% > > identical with what's in Info manuals, either, so how would you > > explain the differences to those users? > > Why do they have to be 100 % identical? Because you use the differences that exist now as argument for the change you proposed. If the differences between what we have in Info and what we have in describe-key are not important, then let's stop using what the Info manual shows in this discussion. > Naturally I shall perform any corrections necessary in the documentation. As we have seen, this will not be much work. What do you mean? The way @key and @kbd are rendered in an Info manual are completely outside our control. > > That's the tiny minority of the examples you show, most of them are > > unrelated to 'kbd'. > > Which was precisely my point. The vast majority uses something like C-@key{...}. No change required here. But @key doesn't produce what your changes will produce, not exactly anyway. So why we are talking about @key as something related to the issue at hand?