From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45806: 26.3; `menu-bar-separator' Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 20:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <83pn2ac8vh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<73e90890-b70a-4eb8-aa9e-d40959d1e1ec@default>> <<83pn2adwn1.fsf@gnu.org>> <4313a39b-5d20-4fff-ab14-fb9be0a43a78@default> <835z42dr4j.fsf@gnu.org> <8ba18d55-3484-4186-b8c2-0335cd8b7b7c@default> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38579"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 45806@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 12 19:27:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOO1-0009wl-52 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 19:27:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56932 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOO0-0000cR-5T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:27:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52464) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOKo-0005QV-H2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:24:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49779) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOKo-000342-8B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:24:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOKo-00034s-3p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:24:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45806 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45806-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45806.161047578711763 (code B ref 45806); Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45806) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2021 18:23:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33092 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOJv-00033f-AT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:23:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59004) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOJt-00032u-VV for 45806@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:23:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37185) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOJo-0002h7-Pd; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:23:00 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2451 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kzOJn-0006UT-GW; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:22:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8ba18d55-3484-4186-b8c2-0335cd8b7b7c@default> (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:09:08 -0800 (PST)) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:197825 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:09:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 45806-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Why am I not surprised that you don't accept the judgment of the > > project maintainers? > > Why am I not surprised that you are personally > hostile, and interpret an opinion as non-acceptance > of a decision? You expressed your opinion, heard its rejection, but you keep arguing. That generates more messages than necessary and increase the workload for no good reason, while telling nothing new. Why increase the noise level here? > Can we not politely agree to disagree about what > should be done We can, but one message from each side should be enough for that. There should be no need for "I heard you, but I still disagree". It's a waste of time and energy.