From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48337: Fwd: 28.0.50; Emacs crashing randomly (possibly minibuffer activity related) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 21:19:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83pmxtxjo3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tunasd2u.fsf@linaro.org> <83fsyu57oj.fsf@gnu.org> <838s4l5uld.fsf@gnu.org> <83zgx14cal.fsf@gnu.org> <83cztx3v04.fsf@gnu.org> <37291ae0-11cb-c817-cf26-b90ad50bfaaa@gmx.at> <425cd7715b658794b4e1@heytings.org> <83r1i9xpvk.fsf@gnu.org> <425cd7715b1381e29e4c@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4885"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48337@debbugs.gnu.org, alex.bennee@linaro.org, acm@muc.de To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 14 20:20:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcQ8-00014Y-HO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 May 2021 20:20:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53380 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcQ7-0004Xr-Hk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:20:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcPq-0004WQ-Ci for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35454) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcPq-0005FG-4r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcPq-0007g5-0u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:20:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 18:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48337 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48337-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48337.162101638429484 (code B ref 48337); Fri, 14 May 2021 18:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48337) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2021 18:19:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47000 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcPU-0007fP-Ag for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:19:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcPR-0007f8-Ic for 48337@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:19:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37396) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcPK-0004gP-WC; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:19:31 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4427 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhcPJ-00006V-Qk; Fri, 14 May 2021 14:19:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <425cd7715b1381e29e4c@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 14 May 2021 17:31:12 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206546 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 17:31:12 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: rudalics@gmx.at, acm@muc.de, 48337@debbugs.gnu.org, alex.bennee@linaro.org > > > In this case, you have repeatedly stated your opposition to this change, > > and nothing positive can be expected from expressing that opposition one > > more time. Can you please calm down and let Alan fix whatever breakage > > he caused? > > I'm very calm. Indeed I opposed this change, from day one, as much as, > and with the same energy as you opposed the change of the TAB key in xref > in bug#44611 for example. My job here includes the need to try to provide guidance regarding directions I think are beneficial for future developments and those which I think aren't. You are not yet in that position. > I will continue to do so until someone explains why this change is a > "significant improvement" No one is under any obligation to give you such an explanation. So my recommendation is to stop asking for it, because nothing but aggravation can ever come out of that. You expressed your opposition and provided your arguments, so people who want to hear will take that under consideration.