From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53207: 28.0.91; create-lockfiles nil breaks file change detection Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:45:37 +0200 Message-ID: <83pmow4r9q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <509ddd0f-589c-45b0-9b60-5820f4c1d716@www.fastmail.com> <83bl0g6f29.fsf@gnu.org> <3759fdad-fb95-4af8-b2bf-146abb81eb3d@www.fastmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17553"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 53207@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Jay Berkenbilt" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 12 21:46:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kVg-0004Oi-CB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:46:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36378 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kVe-0004gr-Vj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:46:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kVO-0004gY-UU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38116) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kVO-0005lE-Ag for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kVO-00063k-AL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53207 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53207-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53207.164202034823269 (code B ref 53207); Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 20:45:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59252 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kVA-00063E-CT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:45:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45122) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kV8-000632-J5 for 53207@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:45:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=55874 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kV2-0005hr-Mu; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:45:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=WH0A7O0QurV8fJvDH0GmHu7HbiWYi47S+NQmx4yI+QY=; b=i/hcgglAszFC 3AsMZEM85R5tDqOCetqBghMS8TjwQqY0BSJmHWurSWzCfQlUzkA68x3hHvnURRvFZwXxJj8tCWRrE DEutFlPyAjVeVfL2c3iFsNcm6FsscYoeAEbpUU6QzzVqe7LcellD94RhiiBxjk8cR4JrYhGyYjYc9 YR9KfTyc9kzSvPcOt+btA1gymlqutKxT5tw3ftZN7senlYCAIDMj0/IABcuzCC9bQle4zKUrDqM8r 77MeSEe3hoVgkTCy5mUlOPtxB5DVmmO1S0XwjmYVPFOVOI4+qIH/SLj1NL5TtqxY2LjLWDeOC4ErA NKipiUdL/gmMh9kTObNpFg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3441 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7kV2-0003K1-Mg; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:45:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3759fdad-fb95-4af8-b2bf-146abb81eb3d@www.fastmail.com> (ejb@ql.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224045 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:07:32 -0500 > From: "Jay Berkenbilt" > Cc: 53207@debbugs.gnu.org > > > My suggestion is to stop setting create-lockfiles to a nil value. Why > > is the non-nil value a problem? > > Emacs lockfiles are dangling symbolic links. Some tools and systems don't > like those. Isn't that the reason we introduced lock-file-name-transforms?