From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32921: emacsclient obeys Xresources even when launched with -nw Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 16:55:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83pmk9d3th.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o7zvc8xi.fsf@gnus.org> <835ym3f0xt.fsf@gnu.org> <875ym3c7bj.fsf@gnus.org> <834k1nezs3.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee0raqy2.fsf@gnus.org> <87czgal2tt.fsf@yahoo.com> <838rqydmy8.fsf@gnu.org> <878rqyklqj.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qwqdj2w.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsl5sxse.fsf@yahoo.com> <83y1yxdffv.fsf@gnu.org> <87czg93juo.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sfp5d7ad.fsf@gnu.org> <87h75l1xeo.fsf@yahoo.com> <83r14pd5b6.fsf@gnu.org> <877d6h1w01.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22721"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 32921@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, jimis@gmx.net To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 19 15:57:22 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgeW-0005dG-S5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 15:57:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59794 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgeV-00077v-DS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgeD-00075M-TP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42403) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgeD-0001PE-KC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgeD-00025O-Jz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:57:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 13:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32921 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 32921-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32921.16529685697944 (code B ref 32921); Thu, 19 May 2022 13:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32921) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 13:56:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36294 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgdM-000244-S6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgdL-00023t-8h for 32921@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgdE-0001F6-2k; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:56:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=f2VNrzX6tcD22tSlaKZdy7Twp4yteGoCoiM4O7y1Nr4=; b=YigXZn67T1x8 ABoHxl25zrAJQeO7VBIg/iTo9EaaporkbKeszun1sexHlR+My603XGJZNRYCpLHOtcTnNks9rtSbh qatDkr9UjwwM4a9mIoLpJUwWJ1vLhMj5D+sWyPCQCZd9NftXtWWhJ5nC89XoWtZPlPlXoUIN/grC4 HTtjg7nGjbnp99j4oAYf9p6L9CM6qMM9uhEK4w++rpe7fN5v/nCGpcZGOQxjAgQbasCQQR2465CFs lqoTmN+4PSUdYi10OWfJ640QeUOurhjwRwqxLhxEtPYZ9PWuwXbvBgczNpzVqxL2w7yEGZhRT/4bx yz90W7efOUjEaBD7mopW5Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1187 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgdC-0007ss-Rm; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877d6h1w01.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Thu, 19 May 2022 21:40:14 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232647 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 32921@debbugs.gnu.org, jimis@gmx.net > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 21:40:14 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > That's what we are trying to understand, among other things. I posted > > one possible explanation. > > I didn't really understand it, since there is no difference between > "startup time" and "frame creation time": the X resources as known to > Emacs do not change after the display connection is established. They > might change on the MS Windows registry emulation, but not on X. No, there is a difference: when we change default-frame-alist at startup time, that change is thereafter propagated to all future frames, independently of what frame-creation-function will do when each new frame is created. > > Then I don't understand your objection at all: when Emacs starts up, > > there's only one X server that can be relevant: the one where Emacs > > shows its first frame. > > My objection was that it behaves differently from the other X resources, > in a way that is eventually overidden by `x-create-frame-with-faces' > anyway. The reverseVideo resource, like the -rv command-line argument, is supposed to invert the colors that the user's customizations set. Maybe this is why it is handled specially.