From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59347: 29.0.50; `:family` face setting ignored Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 19:44:51 +0200 Message-ID: <83pmct23jg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bkp04gjl.fsf@gnu.org> <83leo42vm9.fsf@gnu.org> <0d1ea3007fd94b7ae0b1@heytings.org> <83r0xv1649.fsf@gnu.org> <0d1ea3007f532a493429@heytings.org> <83cz9f12bh.fsf@gnu.org> <835yewleyn.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu2b9rlx.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0347gtu.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28291"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 59347@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 18:46:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KyG-00075k-JJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 18:46:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KyB-0001tp-Jg; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KyA-0001tS-Jz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KyA-0001Pa-7J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3Ky9-0001eu-UN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:46:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 17:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59347 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59347.16705215136352 (code B ref 59347); Thu, 08 Dec 2022 17:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2022 17:45:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KxN-0001eO-3i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:45:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52464) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KxG-0001dr-T5 for 59347@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:45:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KxB-0000Iu-2K; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:45:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=2yODdvu0lD4nrmfxMrjLECosw+Z1ORGtFcOvMU6YI3U=; b=sQHl2+kbKCsb ZuT5TWkY6xVE0n9OvXLy18U42H2eC17n87/xY7xw3V7K19IgvHZuE31dKGSm2lq1cvbL6ZyDXkGIZ 9vjIjLKYf4Ng4uXZrZjtA3oYJ0Gul8wGxuaDQnaZQbHFceJPC/Vusz7CbT8wwMxaITAblZJZG75WO CgslyTUJz/Qnuv8ZgWNfH/uAzcLxjsstNgf0EdacLMlUPAPKInayg9A+KcFzhAPYYj8Nj8zxXtflR ln7b9r29TCaBd25T9AIGVlQQhEenVn8O7kFc8Umn1i0CqeImciWOeFicianFD7bAElLOnPLqJSNyb 4tpJB3WDVOnXkR9y+0pMow==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p3KxA-0005f5-Ij; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:45:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 8 Dec 2022 17:29:26 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:250324 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: Eli Zaretskii , > "59347@debbugs.gnu.org" > <59347@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 17:29:26 +0000 > > Does some of the "problem" figuring out what to > do here perhaps come from the (misguided?) > decision to name some faces (basic/common ones, > no less) after particular face/font attributes, > such as "bold"? No, that's completely unrelated. > Nevertheless, isn't this perhaps at the root of > the problem - trying to decide how to deal with > a face whose name shouts "bold" or "fixed pitch"? fixed-pitch is not a face attribute, so there's no problem whatsoever to have a face by that name (assuming its font is specified accordingly). > Do we really need/want to have _any_ such faces? It's convenient, because such a name speaks about itself. In addition, popular font-handling systems that Emacs supports have such broad "families" of fonts defined, whether we want that or not. For example, "Monospace".