From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64696: 30.0.50; indent-to inherits preceding text properties, including 'invisible Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 18:09:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83pm4o3pm6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fs5l3b3g.fsf@localhost> <83ilah79aq.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzux2zg8.fsf@localhost> <83y1jd5gyf.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1jcl2be.fsf@localhost> <83zg3s3v3q.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz0oyo43.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 64696@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 17:09:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8nk-00070l-V4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:09:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8nY-0006Hd-1D; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:09:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8nW-0006HC-3r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8nV-0004cc-SZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:09:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8nV-0005pY-OB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:09:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64696 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64696-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64696.168977932622384 (code B ref 64696); Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64696) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2023 15:08:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56963 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8nG-0005ox-Ba for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:08:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8nE-0005od-FM for 64696@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:08:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8n8-0004Xl-AX; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:08:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=SAeztQjBxeicDTcRQo7XuyA4C7gYLOezB2gBg4hYVKI=; b=VHwWrnVtl8vn F1UMeJV56j+/oONgFPuqXMjDQMvLQMXF3O0f55W+wudan55hVJ0Oi4qkboWTNxHjgqbeRbfm73i6o iyTyvOZV/nA41TahBVoeyXvsIeiuExkjbGaG8kzlfSpq9Yboi8kwiitSe+03KHMDIZTgaijmKnCvS oQ5l2gSt/k/du9eqe9hMYBlf/P+F6jnN0hEqFfcQRaIERXeg/EhJnaljRmyCZsY09gNc3wsNUCM4K N2Fc9meamyX+pO5SojjpcbV5w/x1ATqimPKmXyVWnREw6u0D5tG/JUsHYiXj6HUs8c1//J6Dzt9dK +798Yb2lWQ6tR0dIfFdlLg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qM8n3-0004lr-CS; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:08:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87cz0oyo43.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:25:48 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265545 Archived-At: > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 64696@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:25:48 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I don't see any inconsistency. 'insert' is a much more > > general-purpose primitive than indent-to. It would be dead wrong for > > each insertion to inherit the properties. > > > > indent-to is different: when you indent text, you supposed want the > > whitespace to use the same face, for example. Think about it. > > Not necessarily. Sometimes, we just use it for plain text alignment. > Like in block comments or Org tables. I can understand "sometimes". My point was that it isn't "always" nor even "almost always". IOW, the fact that indent-to inherits is not arbitrary.