From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66706: [PATCH] Automatic elisp dialect insertion Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 19:04:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83pm12it88.fsf@gnu.org> References: <17C83052-7946-45DE-B660-DA7EB82001B0@gmail.com> <83sf61mb54.fsf@gnu.org> <98CD592C-0E82-4795-8168-2B5E597FF7A7@gmail.com> <8334xzlvy9.fsf@gnu.org> <87pm131pq6.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h6mf1k43.fsf@yahoo.com> <87cyx227gx.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2486"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, 66706@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 25 18:05:05 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgNV-0000N5-Dm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 18:05:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgN7-000539-HF; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:04:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgMy-0004ys-8r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgMy-0004je-0m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgNR-0003r3-R6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:05:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 16:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66706 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 66706-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66706.169824989914806 (code B ref 66706); Wed, 25 Oct 2023 16:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 66706) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2023 16:04:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59848 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgNO-0003qj-Kn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:04:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgNM-0003qU-8V for 66706@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:04:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvgMm-0004hm-6A; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:04:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=hdN/lJXqg5ANgHQ9rAl3+kyNMQb7htpU63un5nvZU2M=; b=NeHr9i1ZpDFCUWWINKFG n+EkdKzBt1eyMzbEkkkn+XyhjWkt0hgEx1mn4n/1EzuUUOVInmUkhqC3gIWQXQcgkiJSNxTnlM2Kw /nMCDVu4WVz/aNg//6esVZM9PLbI3W/yOzuD58T1kbn9AIdWQ6Ktx8YH+x2wHfZ3aKmckuZVZx9un R0N9Pu6JsocG8EXh6QeNyAu5JqfYh2BMC8jUG2becK4Dj9m4SlSHCQeZLI4y377LLE+5miINY50c+ iDc1Lip9P9fG9n9QoBEgzYmXipsCFiNcep1tJSYW85rwbQo3wo6BVMT7Dkxt4QNb28k+foh3qGjHU 2gu/ojHnLYjI8w==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:56:50 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:273192 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Mattias Engdegård > , 66706@debbugs.gnu.org, > stefankangas@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:56:50 -0400 > > > OK, and why is it such a reply does not suffice? And why would any > > measure short of initializing lexical-binding to t eliminate these > > people, when so many have failed in the past? > > Initializing lexical-binding to t by default is currently not an option, > because it would introduce too much breakage. For this reason, we need > to take smaller steps that will later make this change possible. I think if turning lexical-binding on by default is not yet possible, we should wait until it's possible. I see no need for any intermediate steps, certainly not for a step such as the one suggested here.