From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11999: 24.1.50; New Info file suffix ".info" breaks `Info-find-node-2' Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:38:57 +0300 Message-ID: <83obn5ktb2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <30361DAB51FE4AC487EBA7C11AACB36C@us.oracle.com> <831uk688pk.fsf@gnu.org> <35D365A3D0D0487CB7928FB2A672541D@us.oracle.com> <83sjcl7b5w.fsf@gnu.org> <83eho325d9.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343148032 28374 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2012 16:40:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11999@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 18:40:32 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sti9v-0006UA-9t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:40:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41468 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sti9u-00055B-MA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:40:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sti9s-00054S-Er for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:40:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sti9m-0003iA-Hu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sti9m-0003i6-ER for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:40:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1StiGE-0007NA-Fg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11999 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11999-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11999.134314838728297 (code B ref 11999); Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11999) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2012 16:46:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1StiFf-0007MM-7g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:46:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:37770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1StiFb-0007MB-Kq for 11999@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:46:24 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7O00000BFF6D00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 11999@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:38:57 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7O00NVUBKX1FC0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:38:57 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:62351 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 11999@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 04:53:05 -0400 > > >> > Stefan, could you perhaps provide some insight? What is a "pilot > >> > error" in this context, > >> A error of the user rather than of the author of the code. > > What about an error condition that is neither of these two? Or are > > you saying that an error must be one of these two, and nothing else? > > Either you get a backtrace, or you don't. Currently, there's no > in-between choice, so there are only two possibilities. > > > But it isn't a user error, either. Perhaps we should find a better > > name for that, as long as it isn't too late. > > Since it hasn't yet been released, it's not too late to change. > And since it's only visible to the Elisp programmer, its name does not > matter that much. > > I.e. I'm open to suggestions, but I don't think it's worth spending too > much time on it. How about renaming 'user-error' into 'error-no-backtrace'?