From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:41:16 +0200 Message-ID: <83obek4qn7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <7BF20783B8284C1D81BF74087AF081E5@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363362113 18096 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2013 15:41:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 15 16:42:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWlr-00007x-Vg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:42:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60609 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWlV-00033m-8B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:41:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50773) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWlR-00032V-Fs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:41:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWlN-0004vh-He for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:41:49 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWlN-0004vD-Dr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:41:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWmb-0008LI-Re for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13935.136336216032037 (code B ref 13935); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 15:42:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWmG-0008Kg-21 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:42:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:50177) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWmD-0008KS-Ag for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:42:38 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJP00000KR5FH00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:41:13 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJP000FDKWPDI70@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:41:13 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <7BF20783B8284C1D81BF74087AF081E5@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:72551 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13935@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:15:24 -0700 > > 2. You might (dunno) also want to say that whether or not all of the described > behavior is realized exactly as stated can depend on the window mgr. IOW, as it > is written now, it says that Emacs will do something, and it does not exactly do > that in all cases. > > E.g., as the bug report mentioned, the frame on MS Windows is (currently) not > "as wide as possible". It does that "as well as it can". > And on Windows fullboth is not "the size of the screen" > (because of the task bar and the width gap mentioned). Well, if we want to go pedantic, then "the screen size" was never formally defined. Any reasonable definition must keep the task bar visible, so I'd actually argue that the text is reasonably accurate. > 3. And as I said, it certainly is possible to get fullwidth on Windows to DTRT. > The frame-cmds.el code I pointed to uses the full screen width - no 0.5cm gap. > (And it allows for the accessible part of the screen, e.g., lets users exclude > or not the Windows task bar and Mac stuff - see function > `available-screen-pixel-bounds'.) People can use your frame-cmds.el code, until someone figures out how to do all that on the C level and in the framework of how Emacs reacts to changes of frame parameters.