From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18141: 24.4.50; saving .gz file breaks file coding Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:51:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83oavvmsuf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9pzjfrwvsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83iom5ptwv.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx5po5eo.fsf@gnu.org> <83ha1onxgg.fsf@gnu.org> <83r40sm6qo.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407477143 23049 80.91.229.3 (8 Aug 2014 05:52:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 05:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18141@debbugs.gnu.org, vincent@vinc17.net, yamaoka@jpl.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 08 07:52:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd67-0000c2-Jq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 07:52:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49431 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd67-0004Gv-9d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39487) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd5z-0004Gi-RM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd5v-0005mq-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55835) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd5v-0005mj-5L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd5u-0007rB-Ea for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18141 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18141-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18141.140747710730179 (code B ref 18141); Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18141) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2014 05:51:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34545 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd5e-0007qg-Ao for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:51:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:44779) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFd5a-0007qQ-UC for 18141@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:51:44 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N9Z00E0043J5W00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 18141@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:51:37 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N9Z00AOW4A1WQ30@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:51:37 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92291 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 18141@debbugs.gnu.org, vincent@vinc17.net, yamaoka@jpl.org > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:43:05 -0400 > > > I think users generally expect this to be a transaction. And at least > > on Posix platforms, where rename is an atomic operation, we can > > achieve this, or come pretty close. > > I think the time-window is inevitable as long as we do "move first, then > write the new file". Of course, we could do it the "precious" > way instead (i.e. write the new file first and then do the needed > link&unlink to move it into place). Yes, I meant the latter method.