From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24897: 24.5; doc for `M' in Dired Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 21:50:04 +0200 Message-ID: <83oa1rgjdf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <> <<83shr3gkn1.fsf@gnu.org>> <106ca6bc-ecf5-439f-853b-63331a41d4b8@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478548246 25126 195.159.176.226 (7 Nov 2016 19:50:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24897@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 07 20:50:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvl-0002CF-N5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 20:50:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56237 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvo-0003YK-M0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvf-0003Wu-CM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pve-0003uE-LJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pve-0003uA-Hv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pve-0005C7-BY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:50:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 19:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24897 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24897-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24897.147854819719953 (code B ref 24897); Mon, 07 Nov 2016 19:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24897) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2016 19:49:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48699 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvZ-0005Bl-LX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:49:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39078) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvX-0005BY-VL for 24897@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:49:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvP-0003p9-12 for 24897@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:49:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvO-0003p5-UP; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:49:46 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2416 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pvM-0005Y0-95; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:49:46 -0500 In-reply-to: <106ca6bc-ecf5-439f-853b-63331a41d4b8@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:28:52 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125439 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:28:52 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 24897@debbugs.gnu.org > > > and if that is so, explaining the > > Unix-style permission bits won't help a bit. > > True enough for r and x, but not for w. It is reasonable for a user > on Windows to use `M' to make files read-only or writable. But there's no "write" bit on Windows, at least not on the level on which the 'M' command in Dired works on Windows. So you cannot really explain the w bit, either. You need a completely separate description for Windows users.