From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35163: 25.1; `narrow-to-region' docstring no mention of args Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 09:54:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83o95f7joc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <868swoffpi.fsf@zoho.eu> <83ftqwb788.fsf@gnu.org> <86wok8dzi8.fsf@zoho.eu> <83bm1jbqgi.fsf@gnu.org> <86mul3bodv.fsf@zoho.eu> <83r2afa4od.fsf@gnu.org> <86zhp0urlr.fsf@zoho.eu> <87a7h0cf7p.fsf@tcd.ie> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="96881"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: moasenwood@zoho.eu, 35163@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 09 08:55:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkf6-000P4i-Fq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 08:55:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36448 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkf5-0002K4-F8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDket-0002J9-Pj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkes-0006qx-UQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkes-0006qQ-NJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkes-0003pP-GP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 06:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35163 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35163-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35163.155479287814680 (code B ref 35163); Tue, 09 Apr 2019 06:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35163) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2019 06:54:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkeU-0003oi-9r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:54:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37288) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkeT-0003oU-49 for 35163@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:54:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34340) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkeN-0006ex-CN; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:54:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3150 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkeM-00071z-Sy; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:54:31 -0400 In-reply-to: <87a7h0cf7p.fsf@tcd.ie> (contovob@tcd.ie) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:157394 Archived-At: > From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" > Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 23:19:38 +0100 > Cc: 35163@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> could save everyone a lot of time by > >> sending patches.) > > > > Should I interpret this as "one shouldn't > > bother the maintainers with details like this"? > > Not at all. Eli (amongst several other fastidious contributors) keeps > himself very busy co-maintaining Emacs, yet he still manages to set a > stellar example of how documentation should be maintained. > > I'm sure what Glenn and Eli meant is closer to "a patch speaks a > thousand words," i.e. it's easier and more efficient to convey one's > intentions by showing, rather than describing, them, especially over the > lossy communication medium that is email. That is true, but a clear and concrete description of the problem, quoting the relevant parts of the current documentation, is a great help, even if it is accompanied by a patch. Maintaining documentation frequently requires judgment calls, so a clear idea of the motivation for the bug report/patch will make the report handling much more efficient and free from misunderstandings.