From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40863: [PATCH] Improve the display-time-world UI Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 20:57:11 +0300 Message-ID: <83o8r7v8qw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831roa731a.fsf@gnu.org> <85y2qg976f.fsf@gmail.com> <83ees84w6g.fsf@gnu.org> <85tv1492ju.fsf@gmail.com> <871ro3g0k1.fsf@stefankangas.se> <83wo5vvgb5.fsf@gnu.org> <87wo5vei4r.fsf@stefankangas.se> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="93141"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 40863@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 01 20:02:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZzQ-000O8o-GE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 20:02:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40458 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZzP-0004ZW-Gl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 14:02:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZyL-0004UN-DU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 14:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZvG-0007EH-Sg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 14:01:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZvG-0007EC-GY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 13:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZvG-0008Uf-FG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 13:58:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 17:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40863 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 40863-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40863.158835585232603 (code B ref 40863); Fri, 01 May 2020 17:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40863) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2020 17:57:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50605 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZul-0008Tn-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 13:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41764) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZuk-0008Ta-HA for 40863@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 13:57:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZue-0006fN-Ts; Fri, 01 May 2020 13:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1689 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jUZud-0003b2-Lw; Fri, 01 May 2020 13:57:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wo5vei4r.fsf@stefankangas.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 01 May 2020 18:26:28 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179447 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: 40863@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 18:26:28 +0200 > > >> I think Noam presents a compelling argument here. > > > > Noam said several things about this, not just what you cite above. > > Well, I quoted the part I agree with, and tried not to quote unfairly. > Maybe I failed to include something important, but I'm not sure what > that is. > > I take it that you aren't convinced? My bias is towards not breaking backward compatibility unless necessary. Noam in effect said that he tends towards your proposal, but the issue is not important enough. Where does that leave us?