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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: mattiase@acm.org, jidanni@jidanni.org, 44273@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB"
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:28:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o8kmcqtu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dravck1.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed,  28 Oct 2020 12:02:06 +0100)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:02:06 +0100
> Cc: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org>,
>  44273@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> The argument that Tramp needs to parse "ls" output is valid, and that
> "ls" is faster than `ls-lisp' is, too, but it's still backwards: Dired
> should take a well-defined data structure and then render it according
> to however the user wants.

I think it would be useful to measure the difference in speed between
ls-lisp and 'ls' the program on various platforms.  For example, use
benchmark-run to time (dired "foo") with some large directory 'foo',
with and without ls-lisp loaded.  (This should be done with a warm
disk cache.)  This should tell us how badly we need to speed up
ls-lisp.

Profiling ls-lisp could also be educational.  For example, I see in
the profile on my system that this loop:

	(let ((locale system-time-locale))
	  (if (not locale)
	      (let ((vars '("LC_ALL" "LC_TIME" "LANG")))
		(while (and vars (not (setq locale (getenv (car vars)))))
		  (setq vars (cdr vars)))))

is run for each file, which is definitely a waste of cycles.  My
measurements indicate that running this loop just once could speed up
ls-lisp by 25%.

> The data can come from `ls-lisp', but it could also come from "ls": We
> just need to write a parser that parses the data.

The data which comes from 'ls' can take many different formats,
depending on the switches.  Parsing each and every one of them sounds
daunting.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-28 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-28  5:12 bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB" 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-28 10:37 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 10:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 10:53     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 11:02       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 11:18         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 11:23           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 11:47             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-28 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 12:18                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 12:26                   ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-28 12:29                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 15:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  8:36               ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-28 14:39           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-28 14:49             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 15:28         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-10-30 11:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31  9:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:55       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-28 15:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  0:03           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29  3:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  8:48               ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-30  3:05               ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30  7:18                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-30  8:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:33                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 11:33                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-31 19:14                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 11:38                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-01 11:55                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 15:21                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 15:41                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 15:51                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 16:37                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 19:25                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-10-11 12:35                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-01 19:16                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 18:57                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 19:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:38                               ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-11-01 19:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:51                                   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-31  4:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30 19:03                   ` Drew Adams
2020-11-03  3:17                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-03 18:39                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-03 19:51                         ` Drew Adams
2020-11-04 19:41                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-04 20:53                             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 11:34       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-29  4:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30 12:22   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 12:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 13:39       ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-30 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 14:54           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-31  0:12           ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-31  4:45             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-31  4:47         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-31  4:47     ` Richard Stallman

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