From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33855: 27.0.50; Can't see markup in HELLO Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 18:49:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83o7zs9pcf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czgbc7kg.fsf@gnus.org> <87wneizybf.fsf@gmail.com> <871qwp9kms.fsf@gnus.org> <83v8u09wep.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, rpluim@gmail.com, 33855@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 20 17:53:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4wc-0004Iv-C8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 17:53:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37168 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4wa-0005jd-Rf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4t8-0002sV-TX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:50:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46044) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4t8-0000ZL-Kb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4t8-0004l4-HL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 15:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33855 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 33855-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33855.165306175418229 (code B ref 33855); Fri, 20 May 2022 15:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33855) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2022 15:49:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39941 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4sL-0004jx-UW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4sJ-0004jh-LV for 33855@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:49:12 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4sE-0000S1-7z; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:49:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=9fCk5Hj8fx74GmgDiSTFMQU1raXeHscBc3MtZmPz6Cs=; b=UZzmEW7667oG bcgxOvslrrg8h7APKWpvKUzizNA3Jz1CKZDGbDUAKNWrn8rgmDBGe97HisBvfXdsvwnnhtx+y9Hwr jSb5nOxgk712+5eVfvnOqYLT5nroZtXbksUdbJWa5V5Q5rrYHLeV7ASNh25vw6siJcmPr7ofb/aRO W1VK2Xin5qCMd9ZkiyYAm5jB+IkbmwmGOdgfpXAVCpFItXcOu3sHdY5PW2+X4N37nJyJ7LbAKvPig O/TPJlt516YDq4/5KFiYpG2ThOipv1WFK+ud2HbLf+KHJz3Nrx5fkMlnptpEqp/CKuVz97uQ/Z0fB OFNPDI/Klm5DhKUWPAdgCw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1212 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4sD-0001wm-O3; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:49:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 20 May 2022 10:24:12 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232778 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, rpluim@gmail.com, 33855@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 10:24:12 -0400 > > > What other method would you suggest for removing the annotations? > > Maybe a more explicit one, like `C-x h M-x write-region`? Yuck! Users shouldn't need to use that command. > I can't see any part of my above recipe which says that the user (me in > this case, I was just trying things out, tho admittedly I disabled > `enriched-mode` via the menu on the "Enriched" word in the mode line > instead of via `M-x enriched-mode`) intended to remove the annotations. That's what Emacs understood: disabling Enriched means you give up on saving the faces and the other annotations, because Emacs never does that. E.g., if you save a buffer in CC mode with all the faces set by font-lock, you don't expect the file on disk to have any traces of those faces, right?