From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65348: INITIAL-INPUT in completing-read repeats same entry twice consecutively Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 22:19:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83o7j2yh47.fsf@gnu.org> References: <7D2p2XmGzWwhYjrI_PaUsn8r_NaQf-B0eAf7AmeRIhBEl84z79j_jKky-Lqlt6nc52SQ7T5yrL9OdqUzou1Mh3zQzgJx-SV6kIvc9Km8bDg=@protonmail.com> <20R1-cGUtXe8gGwpzmjNHlz39n0IhiK 5lKCn-K1ojbdvMs9R2svYlvbpbFZRqgNZ5i8IYFSO_nitMCNWsw3hg1Zef3DJSjdgZSn5qjXcp8g=@protonmail.com> <83a5un35h6.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24573"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: heimeborgia@protonmail.com, 65348@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 19 21:20:20 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRUi-0006Au-7q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 21:20:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRUR-00025e-5I; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRUP-00024w-EH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRUO-0001zC-FM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRUP-0008I0-J0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:20:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 19:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65348 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 65348-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65348.169247278731840 (code B ref 65348); Sat, 19 Aug 2023 19:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65348) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2023 19:19:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRUB-0008HU-H7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:19:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRU9-0008HG-N1 for 65348@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:19:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXRU2-0001wL-Bk; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:19:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=rgMC4wutfiMC1B2Pg8iadxQ+x/MXkTIiH4Af4IChzaY=; b=nrZNVsrgluR0 FdXeWG8++6v/t0MeZKCiDu622q0z2XgF0n37KCD4lVyP21MIJ+PHGHe3gKrcKBlicvsWZlJqCF2h3 zMSnfE8slZ3kMbTRSxb/PGVg7HMHESVWKS46NiWTK5PQKRPRJHSDvzU7xCMMRMd+4Q+/qUjG/+FrT VYZYqOwnjb1iQLX4tODUOQuKqANqJecK2OtbbuFN8zbyuFw5931DTVnpE69ESysxsB7nyaAemyH2e hz6GdFRDg9Q2/glc89N8VYgtRaT34lDaI0+Hfao5OAhM/+s0xzWqes2D9qU9WQxV9CkFu7HJO89W1 6OQP2cpVwa/wiyKHivr5tw==; In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:20:07 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267907 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "65348@debbugs.gnu.org" <65348@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:20:07 +0000 > > > You can try starting a discussion on emacs-devel if you want. But the > > above-mentioned change was not done arbitrarily, and does have its > > merit in many situations, > > I don't see that it has merit in any situation. The situations where it's useful are obvious. > I haven't seen a single example cited where it > has merit. Can you point to one? What for? so you could argue endlessly that you disagree? We already know that you don't like that change and think it should be reverted, so what would be the purpose of another discussion about that? > And I think you agreed that it's obvious that in > some cases (such as the `C-h v' example cited in > bug #64656) it's _clearly_ not helpful but harmful. In some, quite extreme, case, indeed, it is not useful. That doesn't yet mean it is always useless. Again, we've been through that, and I really have no reason to do it again. Life is too short.