From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 22:18:38 +0200 Message-ID: <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388780353 30596 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2014 20:19:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 20:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 03 21:19:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBDA-00033l-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 21:19:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51675 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBDA-0007Dx-4i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:19:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44257) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBD2-0007Da-Nl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:19:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBCw-0002qB-PI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:19:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46439) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBCw-0002q7-Lc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:19:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBCw-0000Fm-Ca for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:19:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 20:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.1388780330951 (code B ref 16292); Fri, 03 Jan 2014 20:19:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2014 20:18:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBCk-0000FG-6b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:18:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:55377) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBCh-0000F4-Nc for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:18:49 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYU00700DNX0Y00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 22:18:46 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYU006YMDR9YF20@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 22:18:46 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82867 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:26:29 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de > > > The systematic principle I propose is to convert everything except > > letters, i.e. only punctuation and special characters. > > From the viewpoint of the unibyte reader that's just weird. > Why should "ß" be converted to mojibake (destroying the point > of a code example) while "•" is converted to "*" > (a mere formatting nicety)? Because the former are rare in an otherwise English manual, and are mostly in people's names, not in the stuff the manual tries to describe. By contrast, the latter are many and directly affect the readability of the manual. > > It would be a priority if we decide to make that cp-ascii'd output the > > default. > > That's not likely. The general consensus seems to be that > Emacs should just use whatever Texinfo produces by default. We didn't hear from Stefan yet. This isn't a democracy.