From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:11:56 +0200 Message-ID: <83mwjbv75f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l4w5pj.fsf@gnu.org> <52C84C78.5000509@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388866392 11095 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 20:13:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 20:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 21:13:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXat-0005lq-Gd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:13:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55612 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXas-0000fD-Ue for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:13:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52580) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXal-0000f0-Eb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:13:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXag-0003MO-6c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:13:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48556) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXag-0003MF-2X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXaf-0002pz-Oo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:13:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 20:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.138886634110836 (code B ref 16292); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 20:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 20:12:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXa0-0002oh-6s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:12:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:62041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXZy-0002oZ-60 for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:12:18 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYW00H0082TKT00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:12:14 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYW00HGT84D6UA0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:12:13 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52C84C78.5000509@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82934 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:01:28 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > And using --disable-encoding is a simpler way of achieving > > that, as it doesn't need any postprocessing. > > No, because we can't assume that the installer has 'makeinfo' > and can run 'makeinfo' with --disable-encoding. Instead, we must use > universally-available tools like 'sed' when installing. I wasn't talking about the installers, I was talking about someone who does the "make info" step. Of course, this being Free Software, any end user can redo "make info" if the result is not to her liking. At that time, she can override the defaults if she so wants. > > we should at least fix the handful of manuals that already use > > "@documentencoding utf-8", or use non-ASCII characters without any > > @documentencoding, thus producing Info files that might display > > incorrectly in certain locales. > > None of that would fix the regression that Drew Adams noted. That regression is not our problem, and if we want to fix it in Emacs, we can use one of the Emacs display features to display some characters as some other characters. > Better would be to leave the files alone, and build the next > Emacs tarball with Texinfo 4. I don't mind to use Texinfo 4, if there are no objections. It would solve the problem that matters to me.