From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19661: wrapping before window-width (new wrap-column text property?) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 20:00:39 +0200 Message-ID: <83mw56rb94.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87lhlrx5fc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878uhrcr5l.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83sifzjflk.fsf@gnu.org> <87egric2ki.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <877fxaa49w.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <831tnicji7.fsf@gnu.org> <83y4pp9dku.fsf@gnu.org> <87387w8r2j.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87iofxprfv.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <8361bxtr33.fsf@gnu.org> <54C27D19.1080102@gmx.at> <83y4ots0v3.fsf@gnu.org> <54C36111.8030003@gmx.at> <83fvb0se6f.fsf@gnu.org> <54C4C7B2.1080708@gmx.at> <831tmisvtu.fsf@gnu.org> <54C52BFA.1080308@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422208941 10833 80.91.229.3 (25 Jan 2015 18:02:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 18:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19661@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 19:02:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRVo-0002aS-4z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:02:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38494 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRVn-0003bv-C2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRVj-0003bl-Sz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRVf-0000q3-IY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRVf-0000pz-FN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRVZ-0000eV-TX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 18:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19661 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19661-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19661.14222088821711 (code B ref 19661); Sun, 25 Jan 2015 18:02:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19661) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2015 18:01:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRUv-0000Qp-Fc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:01:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:40396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YFRUs-0000IS-KM for 19661@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:01:19 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NIQ00G00VCS9Z00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 19661@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 20:00:54 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NIQ00GJ4VDI2A50@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 20:00:54 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <54C52BFA.1080308@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98721 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 18:46:34 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > CC: 19661@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Sorry for being dense, this being just the first weekday for me, but > > what "windows code" does that, please? > > The one that calculates the text size of windows. OK, but I fail to see how this, or anything similar, can provide the features being discussed. > > In any case, telling the display engine where to start the display is > > a far cry from telling it how to lay out the screen from that point > > onwards. > > My point was to _not_ change the code of the display engine. Why not? > > Providing an API is not equivalent to implementing it. In order for > > us to be able to provide such an API, the display engine should > > implement the support such an API will need. And that's the hard part > > of the job -- how to perform this layout. Once we figure that out, > > providing an API for controlling it will be easy. > > It essentially would have to subdivide a window into rectangles. And I > would do that on the window(s) level to avoid the hard part of the job. Well, like I said, I consider such (ab)using of windows a kludge.