From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:07:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83mvwm7k3s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <55F83FDF.2070202@cs.ucla.edu> <3aa1fafa-ed4d-4935-8a3e-cae7d0842c5f@default> <83r3ly7rpd.fsf@gnu.org> <55F91EF9.2000302@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442398164 12738 80.91.229.3 (16 Sep 2015 10:09:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21472@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 12:09:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9eI-0004X0-FV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:09:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48807 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9eI-0002MW-7P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:09:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9eF-0002LR-43 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9eA-0005XK-48 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9eA-0005XG-1k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9e9-0006cM-P1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:09:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21472 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21472-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21472.144239808425376 (code B ref 21472); Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21472) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2015 10:08:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9dE-0006bE-Dp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:59124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zc9dD-0006b6-2j for 21472@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NUR00200L0H0V00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 21472@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:07:53 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NUR0014PLH0IEC0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:07:48 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <55F91EF9.2000302@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106637 Archived-At: > Cc: 21472-done@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 00:49:13 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Shame on us for failing to write good expressive English for fear of > > quotes. > > I didn't remove those quotes due to fear. I removed them because they made the > manual harder to read. Quotes are important to get right in English, and part > of getting it right is to avoid overusing them. The problem is, you removed too many of them. For example, any use of "magic" where no real magic (as in Gandalf coming in and performing it) should be quoted, because the literal meaning is too far-fetched. Likewise in other similar situations, like with "future history". Likewise when using words that are not correct English (flagged by spell-checker), such as "fullboth". I attempted to fix the worst offenders I found in commit 31ff037.