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Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:33:49 -0400 In-reply-to: <76676126-f9f5-b651-bcb1-bf80a868f990@gmail.com> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel on Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:14:52 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123655 Archived-At: > Cc: 24510@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Clément Pit--Claudel > Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:14:52 -0400 > > On 2016-09-24 13:57, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I find it hard to believe you > > are saying that we should switch from Courier New to MingLiu as the > > default font: that'd be absurd. > > It doesn't feel more more absurd than using Courier New in the first place, frankly. It does to me. > > Emacs supports non-programming applications as well, not just > > programming modes. In fact, the trigger for this discussion was Info, > > a non-programming mode very close to Text mode. > > Why does info use a monospace font? Because Texinfo produces filled text on the assumption that it will be displayed with monospaced font. The Info format was invented for text-mode readers, and it uses hard newlines where the line should be broken. This doesn't work well with variable-pitch fonts. > > We use a monospaced font for the default face because it suits well > > both programming and non-programming modes, and because aligning text > > is much easier with such a font. Text alignment is important in modes > > that present summaries in tabular form, like modes that show listing > > of buffers, email summaries, Dired, Proced, etc. > > Doesn't we the special 'space' display property make it possible to properly align variable-width fonts? Of course, it does. But most Lisp applications don't bother doing that, even though the facility is available since Emacs 21. Counting columns is so much easier.