From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29157: 25.3; Eshell parsing fails sometimes, e.g. "date" and "sed" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:35:44 +0200 Message-ID: <83mv396oj3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tvy9rm5z.fsf@gmail.com> <87lgjk7rpd.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87lgjkoloe.fsf@gmail.com> <87shd5znzf.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87po891o1t.fsf@gmail.com> <87po89ywv5.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8360a1arlf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgiui6qc.fsf@gmail.com> <871skmyyyh.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83wp2e6suq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511710636 8958 195.159.176.226 (26 Nov 2017 15:37:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 15:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 29157@debbugs.gnu.org, ambrevar@gmail.com To: "John Wiegley" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 26 16:37:12 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyzT-0001Us-GP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 16:37:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57056 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyzZ-0005Pe-9Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:37:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyzR-0005Ja-TA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:37:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyzO-0008AR-OR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:37:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyzO-0008A3-KS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyzO-00079z-AH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 15:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29157 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29157-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29157.151171057127465 (code B ref 29157); Sun, 26 Nov 2017 15:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2017 15:36:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59469 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyyZ-00078v-B4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:36:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33530) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyyX-00078j-Ja for 29157@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:36:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyyR-0007iy-Pw for 29157@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:36:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyyL-0007fW-QH; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:35:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4925 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eIyyL-0001QV-77; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:35:57 -0500 In-reply-to: (johnw@gnu.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140414 Archived-At: > From: "John Wiegley" > Cc: Noam Postavsky , 29157@debbugs.gnu.org, ambrevar@gmail.com > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:21:49 -0800 > > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > EZ> That's one way of looking at Eshell, although it's not my way. Eshell was > EZ> intended to be used from Lisp programs, and that's why its built-ins > EZ> accept Lisp objects, values, and expressions as arguments. > > Eshell was intended to be a UNIX-like environment on non-UNIX systems, and as > a bonus to provide useful interactions with Lisp. It wasn't built first as a > Lisp interaction mode. Well, maybe historically I'm wrong, but factually I'm right: what we have now is a shell that can act on Lisp objects and Lisp expressions, and this fact is even documented in the manual. I personally find this feature useful and a lot of fun, and I think it would be a pity to lose it.