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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: ferkiwi+a@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 583@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 10:03:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83mufsbgh2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <sn8srczpd8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:17:55 -0400)

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: 583@debbugs.gnu.org,  ferkiwi+a@gmail.com,  eggert@cs.ucla.edu
> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:17:55 -0400
> 
> IMO a true conversion of Emacs to the XDG spec would involve the
> addition of new variables (user-config-directory, user-data-directory,
> user-cache-directory, etc). Each use of user-emacs-directory would have
> to be reviewed to see where it actually belongs. For some, it would
> probably be ambiguous.

I'm afraid almost all of them will be ambiguous.  Moreover, defining a
clear enough set of rules for where to put files that will be added in
the future is a non-trivial job, and enforcing it will not be easy.  I
predict confusion and arguments.

My gut feeling is that Emacs should have one, at most 2 XDG-derived
directories, certainly not 3.  And if we want to support that
correctly, these environment variables should be accessed much earlier
in the startup process, somewhere in init_callproc and friends,
because setting user-emacs-directory in startup is too late and
creates problems, as we saw already.

We've made a small step in that direction; if we want to continue that
way, someone should volunteer to do the job of defining what files
will go were.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-29  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-21  6:59 bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files? Fernando
2012-12-08 12:18 ` bug#583: XDG basedir specification Eric Heintzmann
2012-12-08 19:06   ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-08 19:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-27 21:57 ` bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files? Paul Eggert
2019-08-28 16:11   ` Glenn Morris
2019-08-28 16:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-28 16:50       ` Glenn Morris
2019-08-28 17:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-29  2:17           ` Glenn Morris
2019-08-29  7:03             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-08-28 18:11     ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-29  2:14       ` Glenn Morris
2019-08-29  6:22         ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-29  8:42           ` Štěpán Němec
2019-08-29 18:30           ` Glenn Morris
2019-08-29 18:35             ` Glenn Morris
2019-08-29 18:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-30  8:02             ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-30 16:18               ` Glenn Morris
2019-08-30 17:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-01  1:56                 ` bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory Paul Eggert
2019-09-02 23:45                   ` Glenn Morris
2019-09-03  6:29                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-08 14:54                       ` Mike Carifio
2020-08-13 11:06                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-01  2:02                 ` bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files? Paul Eggert
2019-09-01 14:38                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-01 18:40                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-01 18:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-01 23:01                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-31 21:51             ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-11  9:21               ` Sven Joachim

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