From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 23:06:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83mue0cv56.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bluhf7nz.fsf@gnu.org> <20191016111004.oialbyleokafpccz@Ergus> <87k194fvn7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871rvceeqp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tv88cyic.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv884ge4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="4511"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: andreyorst@gmail.com, 37774@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 16 22:08:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpah-00011h-QH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:08:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47722 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpag-0005kQ-73 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:08:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpaZ-0005jX-Gd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpaX-0001Bt-DW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37801) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpaX-0001Bj-A2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpaW-0001k7-VV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:08:05 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37774.15712564296638 (code B ref 37774); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2019 20:07:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpZd-0001j0-1P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57492) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpZb-0001im-Dy for 37774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50069) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpZW-0000pC-B6; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1106 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iKpZV-0001nW-KE; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:07:02 -0400 In-reply-to: <87tv884ge4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:52:35 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169491 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: andreyorst@gmail.com, 37774@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:52:35 +0300 > > This is a useful feature, but for backward-compatibility perhaps > it should be optional We could do that, but then the feature will mostly make no sense. > i.e. the meaning of ':extend t' could be reversed, then we could > find and fix all default faces where this new feature is needed. Based on what I saw until now, we will never be able to agree on what faces need this. > > (It's a pity that the long discussion of this before the development > > started went without any such objections from the people who are > > regulars on emacs-devel.) > > I had no objections because I thought that the discussed feature is opt-in, The main reason for the discussion was that the extension is annoying and in most cases should be disabled. That's how the discussion started. That's what other applications do. > i.e. I thought that optional ':extend t' means extend to EOL. That's exactly what was implemented.