From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46472: Make lisp/mail/uce.el obsolete Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 16:00:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83mtw8cbku.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83im6we6v8.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="745"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46472@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 13 15:02:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvVU-000Ae9-Ap for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 15:02:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56112 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvVT-00087Q-9g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:02:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvTr-0007V0-DP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:01:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvTq-0004rU-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvTq-0003JX-BV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 14:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46472 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46472-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46472.161322481312674 (code B ref 46472); Sat, 13 Feb 2021 14:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46472) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2021 14:00:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33858 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvT3-0003IM-0S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:00:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvT0-0003Gn-R8 for 46472@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:00:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49944) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvSv-0004OX-4G; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:00:05 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4579 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lAvSt-00037C-6e; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:00:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 13 Feb 2021 06:25:19 -0600) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:199930 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 06:25:19 -0600 > Cc: 46472@debbugs.gnu.org > > But I think we should be equally free to (strongly) recommend against > bad practices. The method of "recommendation" you propose is too strong for my palate, sorry. In general, I believe that people should be left to their devices unless what they do causes harm to others. Second-guessing other people under the assumption that we know better is something I don't like doing, and don't like others doing to me. How about adding some warnings to uce.el instead, either in the commentary or when the main entry point is invoked for the first time in a session?