From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51733: 27.1; Detect impossible email addresses better Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 15:21:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83mtjrsvy0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czn8etuz.7.fsf@jidanni.org> <835yqiwa87.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee565l4d.fsf@gnus.org> <875yqi5kk7.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgnuuucu.fsf@gnu.org> <83r196uqni.fsf@gnu.org> <87sftm3ye5.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluh4ety.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee55474p.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6ft46mr.fsf@gnus.org> <874k6146ay.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgnt2qz9.fsf@gnus.org> <87v8yh2ot4.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1952omd.fsf@gnus.org> <831r14vq70.fsf@gnu.org> <87tue0nkrx.fsf@gmail.com> <8335lkszzc.fsf@gnu.org> <87h79zoppr.fsf@gmail.com> <83v8yfswzd.fsf@gnu.org> <874k5zdgjj.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmonswmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8yfc1n0.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33933"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 51733@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 19 14:32:12 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAB4N-0008dC-CM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2948 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAAtn-0006iR-A2; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:21:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87v8yfc1n0.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 14:10:11 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224571 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 51733@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 14:10:11 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > E.g., what if someone sends me a citation from someone else's > > email, and I want to textsec-check that citation? Chances are the > > citation will not include RFC2047 encoded addresses. > > You can, of course, add all kinds of things to try to gues whether other > things in other places in Emacs are suspicious or not, but that is not > what these functions I've written do. I don't understand this stubborn opposition to provide better, more general APIs to our users. textsec.el is not an application, it is infrastructure applications should use to provide user-level features. So any application-level decisions, like at what level to detect suspicious addresses, is not textsec's bloody business to make!