From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53452: 29.0.50; C- selection broken by translate-upper-case-key-bindings Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:29:56 +0200 Message-ID: <83mtjkhubf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20220122182635.hi7i2alow4ishyz5.ref@Ergus> <20220122182635.hi7i2alow4ishyz5@Ergus> <834k5vmvf0.fsf@gnu.org> <87czkhjtes.fsf@gmail.com> <83wnipjohu.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmohi818.fsf@gmail.com> <83r18xjlrj.fsf@gnu.org> <87czkgi0cq.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33922"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, 53452@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 13:49:41 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLGX-0008f5-6x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:49:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLGV-0003SS-QN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:49:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKyf-0007Of-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:31:22 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54336) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKyU-0005NN-Jn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:31:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKyU-0001qk-Hg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:31:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53452 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53452-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53452.16431138586903 (code B ref 53452); Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53452) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2022 12:30:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47238 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKyP-0001mz-Pn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:30:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKyO-0001g9-56 for 53452@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:30:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=33030 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKxn-0004zk-3a; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:30:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=5Kw9gZ41DDDxgjvIVYGA5Oq7XZlgOiqGQhbffMhms3M=; b=NZn2r97yardy Y0FrmULRPJwm2rnFZYIZbcP/jgHO/1EHZl5ju1Z+kPavVvUbpGn5EGUYtqBa8XT2nm6OQpDdyyZJd lSkemazu6ob8j+daLc3V5HOpoFBAuYOAJKRgZdb3Dw4obJf4CgEo9SKhLqhGa0D3DWeNDTEyCl/F1 C3gOEecId79uTmLMshLimCSVy4hSvq2Q4qnADsvzgjWvMKchC9tv+MNLMsviykApBe7GzYar/aV+w wwx68TiayacOpwUA2hVgceVMiHomSG5M9gTK2v3FXd8wyF+eDu7drxYCivAKXvRGkLH4XJhhC+XJu Ijf+PzKPN4qVLfG86esZzw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1158 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKxa-0005Xo-33; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:30:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87czkgi0cq.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:19:33 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225171 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, 53452@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:19:33 +0100 > > >>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 15:39:28 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: > >> Why not? > > Eli> Because people will probably want it applied to any key. There's > Eli> nothing special about letters, except that "upper-case" implicitly > Eli> refers to letters. > > Let's start again: > > Currently, S- produces S-, but is translated to , > and C-S-a is translated to C-a > > If you set translate-upper-case-key-bindings to nil, then S- > produces S-, and C-S-a produces C-S-a > > So the effect is as if the option were called > 'translate-shift-bindings', but that effect is not called out > anywhere. > > So either we fix the behaviour, or the documentation. Would it be that > hard to restrict this to something like [a-z] or !function key? Or we > could always add yet-another-user-option. My point was that the behavior is probably okay, and the documentation should be amended if it could confuse.