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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1244 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nEDLx-0000ss-Us; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:47:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87a6fdcjiy.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 16:47:49 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225613 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: rms@gnu.org, mattiase@acm.org, rpluim@gmail.com, > Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de, juri@linkov.net, > 24902@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 16:47:49 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > For example, when there's some problem with cursor position, and I > > want to know where point _really_ is. Also, when there are many > > similar characters in the buffer, and seeing both the character itself > > and its position goes a long way towards disambiguating stuff. > > > > The "part of display ..." and the EOB indication are also occasionally > > very useful. > > Thanks; I see. This sounds very useful especially when debugging the > Emacs display, but perhaps isn't what most users would feel is vital? > (But I don't know one way or the other.) Those are my frequent use cases. > If we split this up into two commands, but added a user option to get > the combined display back on `C-x =', would that be acceptable for you? > (I'm not saying that I actually want that, but just exploring what our > options are here; I don't have any strong feelings on the matter.) Why not put the 2 new commands on 2 other keys, and leave "C-x =" alone?