From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symbols Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:49:41 +0200 Message-ID: <83mt8wm5ai.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875yfresq9.fsf@posteo.net> <831qq8ny2m.fsf@gnu.org> <87leog4018.fsf@posteo.net> <83o7tcm7ji.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26827"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 59082@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 12 18:50:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1otueR-0006qE-Bu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 18:50:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otue2-0001RT-KU; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:50:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otuds-0001OQ-J8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:50:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otudm-0004Yr-7P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:50:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1otudm-0002U6-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:50:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59082 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59082-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59082.16682753829494 (code B ref 59082); Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59082) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2022 17:49:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1otudS-0002T4-Bg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:49:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40170) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1otudR-0002So-7Q for 59082@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:49:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otudL-0004Uo-Rn; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:49:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=59oMA+M4WaKogSlUi4u71q2oP4spO9Sdh3t5pgcG1jI=; b=b6D9YLzCuA9bvgyrKXM7 I8hwl3+frNl32eZitgrwc52SGP9eSHeLgO0jLIXcK8JsRtZ3HoFLsIcikghSx8sfv50pya595OtD4 OYRFeblUW9k3pxCQyA1seGoY0XlynwH/zdNK/FHXgwz02EGWZRVXChkoTiSeV0b26WJwAlP2Ct4kn yv/MHTWAb8UUG7dYXzS2OcKOaRZ8Y/CmWgTq/ynXRdGiyMO4wyjG7Fw55c8/6MK18185sun7EQA8x 8bIqSSO836xE+qsx9rz9beCeUIXEHy3VKny2sWBI9nVQet9OF4lfRLVPLXZapK4rX/YIVMfHzSmD5 4H9PyKGWQmS90Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otudL-0003nI-1v; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:49:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= on Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:18:57 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:247673 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:18:57 +0000 > Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 59082@debbugs.gnu.org > > Of course. And for blue the programmer should just use the names of the symbols there, as always. > Shorthands are not the names of symbols, as i keep reminding. > > If the docstring reader is ever enhanced, then maybe programmers can refer to symbols there using > shorthands. Until then, shorthands are Lisp-only. I don't understand this response. Are you saying that the problem doesn't exist, or are you saying that you just don't care? Or are you saying something else?