From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62892: proposal to extend mark-sexp to go forward and backward on command Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 09:07:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83mt314vlk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83a5z36n1t.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12824"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ruijie@netyu.xyz, 62892@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Zachary Kanfer , Stefan Monnier , Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 21 08:07:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjve-00037I-2j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 08:07:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjvH-0000UU-Hv; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjvD-0000RS-28 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjvC-0000bH-1d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjvB-00055U-PA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62892 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62892-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62892.168205722019549 (code B ref 62892); Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62892) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2023 06:07:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39120 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjvA-00055F-06 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60228) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjv8-00054z-Ck for 62892@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjv1-0000aB-MO; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:06:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=PFkRzgwy6Xz/QIhZbByTGPYN5bJ20R/FWkOQF0LXqI8=; b=jbjeFAbAauD6 s8zKDnOcYoPLcy+KUyCgZkthi9ToV9WomAWT0DIsPQOZid5y9NEvnCYTaeWixcJNRso1BpvLVjETt G+JuZEeUj5YeMzyPb7SR+8KADxF4JArpJdDtz8BUi+25JePxrUjBCP5B804oJ2pIKG/K503se6BXj ex2TSwsaenX37cRjnt2YupPhf9lIq6fU3cXZxc7l3zbmJpXlgPcdxLnK5FfNUgszWYANUauJ0gvSJ ufCUYxdhd1DPdYyQxd3Dkm8/aFkwCeBkbbacmivMp52uQfkIKprwd9PWkIXWj+EXDxo+q+xJlqiPp FU9EFyJLPoyhabPGKjG9Vw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ppjuy-0000en-AE; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:06:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Zachary Kanfer on Fri, 21 Apr 2023 01:04:30 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260368 Archived-At: > From: Zachary Kanfer > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 01:04:30 -0400 > Cc: ruijie@netyu.xyz, 62892@debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov > > It's able to be worked around, yes -- but I think it's easier to have separate methods for forward and > backward, the way we do for so many other commands. For one, having separate functions makes it > easier to start moving backward, (rather than giving a -1 prefix argument. Adding functions and commands is not free, it does come with a price: they need to be documented in our two manuals (something your patch neglected to do, btw), users need to learn them, etc. So I wonder whether on balance it is justified to add this. Lars, Stefan: any comments or opinions? Does anyone else have an opinion?