From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65905: 30.0.50; Consider changing info buffer names to info<(org)> rather than info<3> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:09:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83msxpnb40.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87jzsu3cx9.fsf@laptop.lockywolf.net> <83bke6nsam.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5tq2mj5.fsf@laptop.lockywolf.net> <83sf7im87e.fsf@gnu.org> <87il8e14xl.fsf@laptop.lockywolf.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15177"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 65905@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vladimir Nikishkin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 13 21:11:20 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVGi-0003o5-Ix for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 21:11:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVGL-0001VY-R5; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVGK-0001VN-RR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVGK-0008Lc-JH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVGP-0005Na-Lp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:11:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 19:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65905 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 65905-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65905.169463222020627 (code B ref 65905); Wed, 13 Sep 2023 19:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2023 19:10:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36048 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVFj-0005Mc-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:10:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVFf-0005MM-Le for 65905@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgVFU-0008Ay-PC; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:10:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=g9nSIh94sVo8rVOxccLgyB1u7sSXi5OTD8gALeM/dyA=; b=Jua8EhHtdqXZ to6rMezHW8nP0vvBVSv2/Donmn5GRGFvtgPoERAfHnoix161tEoAW65/sEamRCV8QDPbXa+VO0OWo /bDItVZJPPi3tKdd4/LjmyhldMKjzDnNva7NoImNPsvHsjGlv+fdOKo8TXGurLazGpURr38t1hbyU OkUXFD19rQD84W53zj6Gydd0jyI3975pLttcpAsfiWg3UDypCEz3erGBWQfacBYxxh8o4D2taM5pF 6Od/R3OA480M2+DXxofW3WdmrruEVkUPzdiCqEQELVHFCDXaIYOfl7yx9juQlyKtjtZ6dpXglt8KW AtYue7hO1yPL24e9FQA8+Q==; In-Reply-To: <87il8e14xl.fsf@laptop.lockywolf.net> (message from Vladimir Nikishkin on Wed, 13 Sep 2023 23:07:44 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:270350 Archived-At: > From: Vladimir Nikishkin > Cc: 65905@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 23:07:44 +0800 > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> But it's not the same thing, is it? > > > > It's not? I think it is the same. You wanted a simply way of getting > > back to a manual that you were reading earlier in the session, which > > you still have in some Info buffer, no? That's what "C-h R" does: it > > first looks in the Info buffers already present in the session, and, > > if not found, then looks for the manual installed on the system. In > > your case, the first step will succeed. > > > > No, it does not do that. C-h R just prompts for a "Manual name: " in the > minibuffer, and if I press TAB, shows all the names for all the > installed manuals in the system. You are supposed to type "org" and press RET when it prompts. Because you know you want to go to the Org manual, right? > It does switch to the previously open buffer, if I happen to remember > the name of the manual. But if I do not remember whether I was reading > epa's manual, or pgg's manual (similar features!), I have to go through > them by trial and error. Then I don't understand something. Your original request was to name the buffer "*info*", so that you could type C-x b *info* RET to return to it, right? But if you don't remember the name of the manual, how would you know to type the "" part in the above? And if you do remember the name of the manual, then how does C-h R org RET require more from your memory than C-x b *info* RET ? What am I missing here?