From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:43:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83li2lh2w1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bo3iivmj.fsf@gnu.org> <83pprygdu4.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380087854 23835 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2013 05:44:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org, crockabiscuit@gmail.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 25 07:44:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOhtY-0003Gx-5X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:44:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOhtX-0002A5-A0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:44:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36951) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOhtP-00029w-Ng for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOhtK-00020s-J4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:44:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOhtK-00020o-G0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOhtK-0004hK-3J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.138008782918030 (code B ref 15447); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2013 05:43:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOht6-0004gk-Hr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50818) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOht3-0004gY-56 for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:43:46 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTO00B002HH8R00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:43:43 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTO00AW12KUSUB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:43:43 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78726 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: crocket , 15447@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:44 -0400 > > >> So, is it not a bug? > > I don't think it is a bug, although it would be nicer if instead of > > signaling an error Emacs would say something like "unknown package: > > FOO". > > I guess it also depends on how we end up calling quail-help. > After all, the user is not expected to type M-: (quail-help "foobar") RET. It's a command, but invoking it interactively yields the same behavior. You need to have activated an input method that loads some quail package, before invoking this command, in order to have a help. korean-hangul doesn't load any quail package, so the command throws an error. So I still think a more human-readable error message is in order, although when invoked interactively the package name is not given, so some other wording is in order. It looks like quail-help was designed to be called only by "C-h C-\", where it behaves reasonably, but since it's a command, it perhaps should have some minimal harness for when it is invoked by users directly.