From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough. Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 23:08:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83lh6wqld0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160206112110.9815.qmail@mail.muc.de> <20160206143657.GA1246@holos> <878u2xrd0n.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834mdks5fw.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7sqlnq.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454879420 31138 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2016 21:10:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 21:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22564@debbugs.gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 07 22:10:09 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWav-0006CE-Db for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 22:10:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38316 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWau-00088L-FG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWar-000877-DJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:10:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWao-0007eA-7a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:10:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWao-0007e6-4J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWao-00007x-1v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 21:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22564 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22564-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22564.1454879352412 (code B ref 22564); Sun, 07 Feb 2016 21:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22564) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2016 21:09:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37606 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWa0-00006Z-Eg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:09:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38335) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWZy-00006M-FU for 22564@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:09:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWZq-0007DN-8M for 22564@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:09:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWZq-0007DJ-5Q; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1075 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aSWZp-0007dP-AO; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:09:01 -0500 In-reply-to: <87bn7sqlnq.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Sun, 07 Feb 2016 22:02:17 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112662 Archived-At: > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 22:02:17 +0100 > > > The mode is always turned off by default; Emacs automatically turns it > > on if the terminal supports it. > > OK, then it seems that this doesn't work on mintty. How to tell for > sure from within Emacs? How does Emacs determine the capabilities of > the terminal? Emacs cannot determine these capabilities, AFAIK. We simply send the enabling command to the terminal; those which don't support it will ignore it. > Mintty has implemented bracketed paste mode, but Emacs doesn't seem to > recognize and/or use it, then. Feel free to split this off into another > bug. Sounds like a different bug, indeed. What is the init file in lisp/term/ that gets used for mintty?