From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27932: 26.0.50; Feature request: prevent scroll commands from changing the buffer location of point Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 20:18:43 +0300 Message-ID: <83lgmwty18.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tw1oy54c.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv7ewm1i.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502040022 27190 195.159.176.226 (6 Aug 2017 17:20:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 17:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 27932@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 06 19:20:18 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dePDn-0006TU-EU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:20:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33860 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dePDt-0002tn-HY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:20:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58925) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dePDk-0002q5-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:20:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dePDe-0007jh-IR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dePDe-0007jc-FN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dePDe-0003Oh-AC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:20:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 17:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 27932-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27932.150203994512964 (code B ref 27932); Sun, 06 Aug 2017 17:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27932) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2017 17:19:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dePCj-0003N2-AP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:19:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39583) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dePCi-0003MD-AS for 27932@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dePCa-0007VW-0T for 27932@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dePCZ-0007VS-TH; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3680 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dePCS-0006lr-8J; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:18:48 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 05 Aug 2017 16:19:52 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135509 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 27932@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 16:19:52 -0400 > > > And then there are higher-level issues, like what does this mode mean > > when scroll-conservatively is in effect. > > Person could try it whichever way is easiest and see if person likes it. I was thinking about the person who will need to decide how to code that. In several places we behave under scroll-conservatively with the explicit goal of keeping point visible in the very first/last sufficiently-visible screen line: this might need to be changed if keeping point visible is no longer a requirement.