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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 32643@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:35:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lg8ewk2c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <488f04e4-8389-459b-b3c7-603e48bed452@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:51:10 -0700 (PDT))

> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:51:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: rms@gnu.org, 32643@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Most probably, historical accidents.  But even finding that out is a
> > non-trivial amount of work.
> 
> `auto-fill-mode' has already been identified. Let this bug report serve
> (at least) to ask that Emacs set an `auto-fill-mode' mode variable.

You've changed the subject by eliding the context.  The above was an
answer to your question why some modes have variables while others
don't.

As for auto-fill-mode, can you tell why it is important to have a
variable there?  What cannot you do without that variable?

> > I think the manual already does what you want, it just doesn't say
> > this is a bug (because it isn't, IMO).
> 
> The manual says nothing, AFAICT, that provides guidance about when
> a mode should not or need not have a variable. Based on what it does
> say, each mode "should" have a variable. Is that your point?

My point is that the manual recommends that there be a variable.

> In that case, perhaps we should remove the text about some existing
> modes not respecting this "should" - especially if that is only by
> historical accident.

If we remove that, we will have no way to respond to bug reports
requesting that all modes shall have a variable.

> Keeping the text suggests that there is some good reason why some
> modes do not have variables.

There's no such suggestion, it's just a statement of a fact.

> And since a mode not having a variable is likely only an accident, 
> presumably such a mode "should" be fixed, if identified.

Not every accident deserves to be fixed.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-06 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-05 15:13 bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables Drew Adams
2018-09-06  5:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-06 14:18   ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 14:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08  2:07     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-08  2:25       ` Drew Adams
2018-09-09 20:33         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-09 22:09           ` Drew Adams
2018-09-12  0:51             ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-12  1:46               ` Drew Adams
2018-09-13  3:32               ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-13 13:28                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-09-09  6:05       ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-09 14:12         ` Drew Adams
2018-09-10  7:27           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]   ` <<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-06 14:51       ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 18:35         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
     [not found]   ` <<<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<488f04e4-8389-459b-b3c7-603e48bed452@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83lg8ewk2c.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-07  0:10           ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07  6:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08  5:13             ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-08 13:58               ` Drew Adams
2018-09-08 17:53                 ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]   ` <<<<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<488f04e4-8389-459b-b3c7-603e48bed452@default>
     [not found]         ` <<<83lg8ewk2c.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<fb9c0be1-c9da-4cf8-aab3-fd54a0a97e68@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83lg8dvmia.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-07 15:07               ` Drew Adams

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