From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35163: 25.1; `narrow-to-region' docstring no mention of args Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 10:08:25 +0300 Message-ID: <83lg0j7j12.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834l788mjc.fsf@gnu.org> <868swoffpi.fsf@zoho.eu> <87d0lwccwc.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <86imvouhp4.fsf@zoho.eu> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="157491"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: npostavs@gmail.com, 35163@debbugs.gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 09 09:09:16 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkse-000epP-0i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 09:09:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36599 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDksc-0005tC-Ki for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:09:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDksS-0005p6-D5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDksR-0005ST-9v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:09:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDksQ-0005Rw-Ip for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hDksP-0004AV-Ts for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:09:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 07:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35163 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35163-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35163.155479371715991 (code B ref 35163); Tue, 09 Apr 2019 07:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35163) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2019 07:08:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hDks0-00049q-Ud for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:08:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40553) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkry-00049d-U5 for 35163@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkrt-00051Z-Gl; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:08:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4007 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hDkrs-00016K-GP; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:08:28 -0400 In-reply-to: <86imvouhp4.fsf@zoho.eu> (message from Emanuel Berg on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:48:39 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:157396 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:48:39 +0200 > Cc: 35163@debbugs.gnu.org > > Noam Postavsky wrote: > > >> Or at least a clear description of > >> the problem. > > > > To be fair, message [11] is fairly clear and > > pretty close to what Glenn wrote (perhaps it > > misses the emphasis on satisfying checkdoc). > > I agree that message 11 is fairly clear, > however checkdoc is mentioned there as well: > "(checkdoc-current-buffer t) would tell you > this ..." Please realize that I cannot afford spending so much time on each bug report. I get about 200 email messages each day, perhaps 2/3 of them about Emacs. Just reading them all takes a large portion of the free time I have. A clearly described bug report usually gets fixed immediately, within seconds of reading it. When the issue is not so clear, I ask follow-up questions. Since whoever submitted the bug report already invested some time on it -- in this case running checkdoc -- I ask you to help me by providing the output, pointing out the specific details which in your opinion needs fixing, and preferably also explaining why you think they need to be fixed. Asking me to repeat the steps that you already made makes the handling much less efficient, and usually means the issue goes to the bottom of my TODO. If I don't act like that, I won't be able to cope with my daily email inflow. So please help me handle the issues you report efficiently by providing the information you already have, because you've studied the issue in advance. TIA