From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32599: 25.2; Feature request: input PUA characters by name Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 21:45:30 +0300 Message-ID: <83lfyr20tx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86sh30fg4q.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <868t4n3wbt.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <877ek72c7b.fsf@gmail.com> <868t4m3nrs.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <8736uu3eb3.fsf@gmail.com> <86r2iey9vk.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <867ead8wmd.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <83lfyt2s25.fsf@gnu.org> <86pno56y82.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <83a7f92lzr.fsf@gnu.org> <86woidyvbz.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <837ead2glo.fsf@gnu.org> <86woic4fd5.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <83r28j2560.fsf@gnu.org> <86muj7u789.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="171116"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 32599@debbugs.gnu.org To: jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 27 20:46:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKdS-000iMI-DL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 20:46:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49463 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKdR-0006Qg-4b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:46:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37897) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKdH-0006QP-1T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:46:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKdG-0002su-3U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:46:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40520) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKdG-0002sm-17 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKdF-0007Hy-Uv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:46:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 18:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32599 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 32599-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32599.155898273626335 (code B ref 32599); Mon, 27 May 2019 18:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2019 18:45:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54064 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKcp-0006qL-Cj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:45:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51678) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKcn-0006iM-9w for 32599@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42010) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKch-0002gx-C4; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:45:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3598 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hVKcg-0000uY-Hy; Mon, 27 May 2019 14:45:27 -0400 In-reply-to: <86muj7u789.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> (jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:159820 Archived-At: > From: jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) > Cc: 32599@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 19:39:50 +0200 > > > Asking Emacs to maintain compatibility to various ad-hoc registries > > outside of Unicode is not really reasonable. > > Yes, but it is not what I propose. I just would the user to be able to > use his own definition of PUA provided in the form of an additional > UnicodeData.txt (not necessarily as a part of Unicode, it can be perhaps > a different coding system). We don't have infrastructure for reliably doing such customizations on user level. Even importing a new version of the Unicode Standard currently requires some manual adaptations, although most of the job is done by just rebuilding Emacs after downloading a few UCD files. Apart from making it possible to modify/update the relevant tables programmatically, someone should figure out which properties are relevant to PUA codepoints, which scripts they should belong, and also how to specify fonts for them. And if you want users to be able to do this stuff, all those missing infrastructure features should be exposed as user commands which don't require rebuilding Emacs and preferably not even restarting it. Someone who knows enough about the issue should do this job, for the feature to be available.